Why are christians so judgemental about gay people, I am not gay but have friends and family that are. If god made everybody who made gay people if it is such a problem

talaniman

I am not christian and don't beleive in the bible. I do believe in God, which makes your statement inaccurate.
Sorry Stardude, My personal relationship with God, prevents me from doing just anything.

yamotnako

[quote=Starman]Since we Christians have the Bible, which we consider God's message to mankind revealing his requiremernts and his personality so that we can serve him, what you are really saying is that you have chosen not to believe in the Bible,

I am a Catholic and I didn't say I don't believe in the Bible. Though word of God is written in it...It is MAN who wrote it...and knowing an old culture especially from middle east...don't you think it has been altered a little bit and it came from a different language...how does one know the the translation we are reading is the real message that was written...when it was first translated...it was the time when nobody has a voice but those who were in higher position... Let's say a phrase like "Those who believe in Me will be saved"...what if you're not a Christian?...and you believe in another religion...but all your life you didn't hurt anybody...would that mean that you cannot be saved?...I think being a good person which usually have guilt feelings if he did something wrong and admit his wrong and ask for forgiveness is enough requirement.

Wangdoodle

You may be interested in reading what the Catechism of the Catholic church says about the necessity of faith in salvation. Paragraphs 161, 162. And about Sacred Scripure. Paragraphs 101-133.

Starman

Clarrification:

Not that Bible rejection leads to doing anything without restriction. Simply that the restrictions of a Bible rejector need not harmonize with the Bible principles but can deviate at the person's discretion.

Example: If a person rejects the USA Constitution and chooses to make his own laws some of those laws might be contrary to what he Constitution says. It doesn't mean that he will do this, simply that his rejection of the Constitution opens up the way for this possibility to become a reality.

talaniman

Fair enough. My point is that the God that I understand wants me to give Gay people as much respect as I do to christians, jews, and muslims, soccer moms, and any other human.

Starman

If by respect you mean not persecuting them or harassing them or depriving them of their rights to be self sufficient via violating their citizen rights or human rights-or otherwise being cruel simply because of their chosen lifestyle then I agree. However, if by respect you mean that we as Christians are under obligation not to point out what we believe God considers sinful, but should remain silent in order to show respect then I disagree, I guess that's where we differ.

As for love, the Bible tells us that making known God's requirements is an expression of agape love since it opens up the way to eternal life. In fact, keeping silent when we perceive another human being is in danger spiritually or is headed the wrong way is a sin. So it's not from a hating basis that Christians are making known God's requirements but from a position of concern for the eternal welfare of our fellow man.

talaniman

So its okay to lead the horse to water but if he doesn't choose to drink, Now what????

retsoksirhc

I could swear that somewhere in the bible it says "Judge not, lest ye be judged"

Hmm.

Starman

You feel judged? Wonder why?

Starman

Now he or she lives his or her life the way he or she wants to. Or is there something additional which I am supposed to do and am unaware of? Pray tell!