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Old Oct 24, 2007, 10:06 PM
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gay friend in church

my best friend turned out to be gay(well bi to be exact) and he kinda came out to a few people. he told out main group of friends and one of his best friends since like middle school totally turned her back on him and she is just being a total hypocrite. I really dont get her at all!!! Im not alright with his orientation but...hes still a friend of mine. His friend then went and told everyone including the youth pastor(cuz were all 11th and 12th grade) and he took our group of friends and told us that he has decided to turn his back on god and so the bible says that we are not to accept that lifestyle so we need to turn our back on him, not ignore him, but theres no way that we can be best friends with him. Thats wrong right?? i say its his life and he will have to deal with god. we arent to turn our backs!!! his stupid EX friends are being snobby and i just can not believe it!!! they think they are being christians??? they are pitiful excuses of one!! god died for ALL of us!! he loves ALL of us. he accepts ALL of us. Im against being gay, in the sense that i see it as going against exactly what the bible says, but....they are still people that deserve gods and our love.

 
     

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Old Oct 24, 2007, 10:55 PM   #2  
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You know, that is a difficult question. Jesus delt with thieves, prostitutes, lepers, cripples, demons and everything else except one gay person. He did say that he who is without blame cast the first stone but I don't really know if that pertains to this one.
Obviously you don't want to mistreat someone or treat them like an outcast. I would say that you just follow the Golden Rule on this one. I think that pretty well covers everything.

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Old Oct 25, 2007, 04:37 AM   #3  
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It comes down to the concept of Love the Sinner, Hate the Sin. You can still show the Love of Christ to this person, just as Jesus did to the sinners of His day. You can not approve of his lifestyle, but you can tell him that you love him, and are praying for him. Think of this sin as if it was another sin. If he was a theif, you would still love him, but you could not approve of him stealing things. You would not want to be around him when he is stealing, or hear stories about him stealing. If you still know in your heart that stealing is wrong, you should be convicted to share your concern with your friend about their sin. The same applies to any sin. You can love your friend, but you can not comprimize your beliefs for a "friend".

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MoonlitWaves agrees: Excellent response. Hate the sins not the sinner. It is not logical to turn your back on a gay person's sin, because their sin is no greater than ours.
sGt HarDKorE disagrees: Stealing, Killing, etc are all different sins. If someone steals a pencil, they should not be in hell for that. Now if someone killed someone and never asked for forgiveness, then they should be in hell. Gay people are good people too
s_cianci agrees: Balancer. Sgt. hardkore misunderstands the concept of sin.
 
 
     
 
 
Old Oct 25, 2007, 06:03 AM   #4  
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Even when we don't understand the commands of the LORD, we are commanded to obey Him.

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tchalien agrees: true
s_cianci agrees: Right! That's what so many people don't understand.
 
 
     
 
 
Old Oct 25, 2007, 08:45 AM   #5  
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When everyone one comes "out of the closet" with their sins [ for example - mine includes, pride, lust, envy , anger ] and is 'cured' then they can turn their backs on your gay friend, until then we are commanded to love. It does not mean accepting sin, it means that God loves us despite our sins and therefore we should love others despite their sins.




Grace and Peace

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Old Oct 25, 2007, 03:26 PM   #6  
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You shouldnt just ignore him! None of them should! It was his decision and he will have to stand before God because of it. You can still be friends with him, there is nothing wrong with that! You just dont support his decision! I have a friend that's bi too. But he isnt a christian. I like him i just dont support his decision.
 
 
     
 
 
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I don't believe we are to be around those who willfully choose to sin.


Psalm 1
The Way of the Righteous and the End of the Ungodly
1 Blessed is the man
Who walks not in the counsel of the ungodly,
Nor stands in the path of sinners,
Nor sits in the seat of the scornful;
2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD,
And in His law he meditates day and night.
3 He shall be like a tree
Planted by the rivers of water,
That brings forth its fruit in its season,
Whose leaf also shall not wither;
And whatever he does shall prosper.

4 The ungodly are not so,
But are like the chaff which the wind drives away.
5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment,
Nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.

6 For the LORD knows the way of the righteous,
But the way of the ungodly shall perish.

2 Corinthians 6:14
Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?

Ephesians 5:11
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them

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Gernald disagrees: No one sins becuase they don't want to. When your driving down the road and swear at someone do you not have the option to not swear??? Humans sin, that's kind of what we're best at, all we can do is hope g-d will accept us for our sinning selves.
RustyFairmount disagrees: Luke 15:1-7 says otherwise.
 
 
     
 
 
Old Oct 25, 2007, 04:57 PM   #8  
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Originally Posted by savedsinner7
I don't believe we are to be around those who willfully choose to sin.


Psalm 1
The Way of the Righteous and the End of the Ungodly
1 Blessed is the man
Who walks not in the counsel of the ungodly,
Nor stands in the path of sinners,
Nor sits in the seat of the scornful;
2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD,
And in His law he meditates day and night.
3 He shall be like a tree
Planted by the rivers of water,
That brings forth its fruit in its season,
Whose leaf also shall not wither;
And whatever he does shall prosper.

4 The ungodly are not so,
But are like the chaff which the wind drives away.
5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment,
Nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.

6 For the LORD knows the way of the righteous,
But the way of the ungodly shall perish.

2 Corinthians 6:14
Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?

Ephesians 5:11
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them
so you mean that i should just stop being friends with him?? i mean what kind of witness would that be? not one at all. god showed his love so i shouldnt?? that would be more hurtful! just dropping a friend at the side of the road and saying that im not your friend anymore is just wrong. Its actions like that that make people generalize christians. just not being a friend to someone anymore would probably make them stop going to church and resent ALL churches. Thats really dangerous.
 
 
     
 
 
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I will not tell you what choice to make. I only point out what the Bible says. You are free to choose.
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so you mean that i should just stop being friends with him?? i mean what kind of witness would that be? not one at all. god showed his love so i shouldnt?? that would be more hurtful! just dropping a friend at the side of the road and saying that im not your friend anymore is just wrong. Its actions like that that make people generalize christians. just not being a friend to someone anymore would probably make them stop going to church and resent ALL churches. Thats really dangerous.
 
 
     
 
 
Old Oct 25, 2007, 05:28 PM   #10  
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the bible also supports slavery and states that women should be quiet and not equal to men.

Personally, just because he is gay SHOULD NOT mean anything. That doesnt change how funny he is, how nice he is, or anything else. Its just another form of racism, aka descrimination.

Im a christian but i dont put much thought into the bible. The bible has been translated numerous times and things could have been changed and edited.

Its so old. I hate it when people say dont talk to someone because they are gay or something. Ya your a good friend, personally you should go to hell for that. Turning your back on people in need.

I would rather be in hell and atleast no i helped people than turn my back on my friends and such and be in heaven. Thats not right

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Gernald agrees: thank you for saying that
Wondergirl agrees: You are wise beyond your years!
inthebox agrees: You'are a Christian that rather be in hell?
 
 
     


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