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Old Oct 1, 2007, 05:38 AM
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Are Jesus and God the same?

I have learned that Jesus is God's son but I have also seen where people talk about God and Jesus as if they were the same person. Does it depend on the religion?

 
     

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Old Oct 1, 2007, 05:42 AM   #2  
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Old Oct 1, 2007, 05:50 AM   #3  
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I have learned that Jesus is God's son but I have also seen where people talk about God and Jesus as if they were the same person. Does it depend on the religion?

John 1:1-4
1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
NKJV
 
 
     
 
 
Old Oct 1, 2007, 06:05 AM   #4  
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i think that depends on the religion.
some religion say that God doesn't have a son or any partner and he is all alone and ONE. and say that Jesus (peace be upon him) is his prophet and messenger only and nothing else. Muslims say this
Chirstians say that he is God's son
and Jews .....what do they say ? i forgot?

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firmbeliever agrees: God is One!
Sad Soul agrees: Jews say that the Messiah is coming, but we don't think he's God.
 
 
     
 
 
Old Oct 1, 2007, 10:34 AM   #5  
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i think that depends on the religion.
some religion say that God doesn't have a son or any partner and he is all alone and ONE. and say that Jesus (peace be upon him) is his prophet and messenger only and nothing else. Muslims say this
Chirstians say that he is God's son
and Jews .....what do they say ? i forgot?

Why don't we look at what God said:

Proverb 30:4
Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what [is] his name, and what [is] his son's name, if thou canst tell?
KJV

And what did Jesus Himself say?

John 10:34
Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
KJV

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I have nothing more to say on this .....
 
 
     
 
 
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Did Jesus obtain the same status as God when he died? When a person prays to God is he also praying to Jesus and vice versa. Or is it like the Catholics where there is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit? Also TJ3, I am a little confused about your answer.
 
 
     
 
 
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Did Jesus obtain the same status as God when he died? When a person prays to God is he also praying to Jesus and vice versa. Or is it like the Catholics where there is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit? Also TJ3, I am a little confused about your answer.

Jesus was God was eternity to eternity.

Mic 5:2

2 "But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
Though you are little among the thousands of Judah,
Yet out of you shall come forth to Me
The One to be Ruler in Israel,
Whose goings forth are from of old,
From everlasting."
NKJV

And shared God the father's glory in eternity past.

John 17:4-5
5 And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.
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And Jesus is part of the trinity. There is a great deal in scripture about the trinity, three persons, one God, all equal. When Jesus came to earth as a man:

1 Tim 3:15-16
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:
God was manifested in the flesh,
Justified in the Spirit,
Seen by angels,
Preached among the Gentiles,
Believed on in the world,
Received up in glory.
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He humbled Himself to be a perfect obedient man:

Phil 2:5-7

5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.
NKJV

Men are required to be obedient to God, and as such must worship and pray to Him. When Jesus came to earth as a man, to avoid sinning and to be qualified to be our sacrifice on the cross, He had to be perfect, He had to be obedient as a man.

When he died on the cross and was resurrection, He was once again exalted to His rightful place:

Phil 2:9-11
9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, 10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
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I have learned that Jesus is God's son but I have also seen where people talk about God and Jesus as if they were the same person. Does it depend on the religion?

In Christianity, Christ is viewed in different ways. Some will say Jesus is God. Some will say Jesus is not God. Are you asking for a particular denominations view?
 
 
     
 
 
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Did Jesus obtain the same status as God when he died? When a person prays to God is he also praying to Jesus and vice versa. Or is it like the Catholics where there is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit? Also TJ3, I am a little confused about your answer.

Catholics have the Trinitarian view of God. One God in three persons. The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit, all being of the one and same substance. With that understanding, one can pray to The Father as God, Jesus as God, and The Holy Spirit as God.
 
 
     


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