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Old Sep 29, 2005, 08:43 AM
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Faith Healers

Hello all,

Does faith Healers really heal people?
Here is my take on it, what is your opinion?

First an examples about faith Healers"
A South Carolina, U.S.A., faith-healing session called a “healing explosion” has resulted in a lawsuit against two Texas faith healers. A North Carolina woman claims that they are responsible for multiple fractures in her neck and back. Why? According to The Greenville News, her lawsuit “describes a procedure in which a minister lays his hand on a person who then is ‘slain in the spirit’ and falls backward into the arms of a ‘catcher.’” The problem in this case, the woman charged, was that there was no catcher—and thus her injuries.
Taken from court doc in South Carolina


Faith healers of today are fond of citing Jesus’ statement to a woman suffering 12 years from a flow of blood who came to him for cure: “Your faith has made you well.” Luke 8:43-48 Did Jesus’ statement indicate that her cure was dependent on her faith? Was that an example of “faith healing” as it is practiced today?
When we read the Bible record carefully, we see that on most occasions Jesus and his disciples did not require that the sick declare their faith before being cured. The woman cited above came and, without having said anything to Jesus, quietly touched his garment from behind and “instantly her flow of blood stopped.” On another occasion, Jesus healed a man who was among those who had come to arrest him. He even healed a man who had no idea who Jesus was.
Luke 22:50-51 A certain one of them even did strike the slave of the high priest and took off his right ear. 51 But in reply Jesus said: “LET it go as far as this.” And he touched the ear and healed him.
John 5:5-9 But a certain man was there who had been in his sickness for thirty-eight years. 6 Seeing this man lying down, and being aware that he had already been [sick] a long time, Jesus said to him: “Do you want to become sound in health?” 7 The sick man answered him: “Sir, I do not have a man to put me into the pool when the water is disturbed; but while I am coming another steps down ahead of me.” 8 Jesus said to him: “Get up, pick up your cot and walk.” 9 With that the man immediately became sound in health, and he picked up his cot and began to walk. Now on that day it was a sabbath.
What role, then, did faith play? When Jesus and his disciples were in the district of Tyre and Sidon, a Phoenician woman came and cried out: “Have mercy on me, Lord, Son of David. My daughter is badly demonized.” Imagine her despair as she pleaded: “Lord, help me!” Filled with pity, Jesus replied: “O woman, great is your faith; let it happen to you as you wish.” And her daughter was healed “from that hour on.” Matthew 15:21-28 Clearly, faith was involved, but whose faith? Notice that it was the mother’s faith, not the sick child’s, that Jesus praised. And faith in what? By addressing Jesus as “Lord, Son of David,” the woman was publicly acknowledging that Jesus was the promised Messiah. It was not a simple expression of faith in God or faith in the power of the healer. When Jesus said, “Your faith has made you well,” he meant that without faith in him as the Messiah, the afflicted ones would not have come to him to be healed.
From these Scriptural examples, we can see that the healing performed by Jesus was far different from what is commonly seen or claimed today. There was no strong emotional display—shouting, chanting, wailing, swooning, no catcher of those that fell backwards, and so on, from the crowds and no dramatic frenzy on the part of Jesus. In addition, Jesus never failed to heal the infirm on the pretext that they lacked faith or that their offering had not been generous enough.

Where does the danger lurk in exploitative magic? Palm readers, fortune-tellers, and faith healers, to mention a few, apply exploitative magic to advance their own interests. Are they not living a lie by their profession? God’s Word says: “You must not deceive, and you must not deal falsely anyone with his associate.”—Leviticus 19:11.
Therefore, when it comes to magic that is clearly connected with spiritism, true Christians wisely avoid practicing it. Beyond that, in all aspects of a Christian’s life—whether involving employment, recreation, or entertainment—he would want to “hold a good conscience,” a conscience that permits no offense against God or man.—1 Peter 3:16

(Acts 24:16) In this respect, indeed, I am exercising myself continually to have a consciousness of committing no offense against God and men.

I personally feel that faith healing to be part of spiritistic practices condemned by God. What is your personal opinion?

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Old Sep 12, 2007, 10:19 PM   #21  
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Since God made us all, then we are part of God.
No doubt we can do all the cool stuff - Jesus told the Disciples that they could do even more than He - can't get much more empowering than that!

I think the deal is our intent. If we seek to do stuff that is not necessarily and usually not to the other person's greatest and highest good, then we are manipulative and not working from a place of God's Love - these works will usually show to be blighted in some way.
Working from God's Grace - i.e., clearing our minds and hearts and asking for God's Guidance and to be a channel of God's healing energy for the highest and best good of our client is...well, it just don't get better than that. My healing room gets very crowded with the Angels, Ascended Masters, Guides, Holy Beings that want to help/do the healing on client. Its a pretty awesome experience - miracles happen and I, for one, can truly feel the presence of God and the blessings of God as I do the work. When I first started, I got a lot of phenomena, I think to let me know I was doing it 'right' and to expand my mind, my heart, my gifts as I did the work. These days, not so much phenomena as just holding Unconditional Love for client and allowing the energy to work on us both as God channels it through us. Both experiences are significant, but the real significance is the changes in client when they get up from the table and start telling me what happened and what they felt and so on. It is, after all, their experience.

So while I respect your opinion that faith healing/energy healing is a hoax or whatever, my experience is much different and I can guarantee you that I started out being much more bitter and cynical than you ever thought about being. But the proof is, 'Does it work?' and boy, howdy! Does it ever!

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Old Sep 12, 2007, 11:32 PM   #22  
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Hi Hope the bible states that gifts and callings comes without repentance which means that you dont have to be born again to have gifts such as speaking in tongues, healing and prophecy. Your post is reminding me of the anti christ whent he is going to show great signs and wonders and all the world will follow after him except the one's whos names is in the Lamb's book of Life

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Originally Posted by Hope12
Hello all,

Does faith Healers really heal people?

Take care,
Hope12
Holly,

faith healers who work through the Holy Spirit are Biblical, but those in it for the money and the show such as Benny Hinn are working through evil spirits.

James 5:14 - 15

Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.



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cpalmist agrees: Great job & Great Bible verse. Thanks for sharing.
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Ok Hope let's debunk some of this

Firstly I have never known anyone who is genuniely slain in the spirit to be hurt, however I have seen a number of people who have fallen backwards who, because of an incomplete understanding, or just to be part of what is happening, are obviously not slain in the spirit and place themselves in a position of potential injury. Catchers are provided in Churches in order to fulfil a duty of care and to avoid litigation.

Secondly let's divorce faith healing from Christian healing ministry. Gifts of healing are part of the gifts of the holy spirit and therefore it is right and proper that we should pray for the healing of individuals. As far as I am aware it is not essential to this process that a person be slain in the spirit however as the power of God touches them they might be.

The healing ministry is not a matter of showmanship but of genuine concern for the welfare of an individual

Faith healing as practiced in the Philipines and other places is part of the occult and something quite different. Some healing practiced in some Christian circles might also be unscriptural but the question is always down to fruit. By their fruit you shall know them

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Toms777 agrees: Some who are slain do not stay slain, and some that are 'healed' are not healed. It is a mix. The fruit is the key.
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