How do christians explain Jesus' failed prophecies ? Here are only two among several.
Matthew 10:23, Jesus told his disciples that he would return before they could go over all the cities of Israel with the gospel. The gospel has since been preached all throughout Israel, & continues to be so with christian television now, & still Jesus hasn't returned.
Mark 14:62, Jesus told the high priest that he would live to see Jesus' second coming. Of course the high priest died before Jesus returned.
So there is two false prophecies made by Jesus. Any explanations ?

NeedKarma

Sorry that's too confusing for me to understand.

lpeyton

Infact, Jesus has returned.

He appeared the the discplies after he was resurrected, before the high priest died and before his teachings were released all over the world.

deist

Did the high priest see Jesus sitting at the right hand of God & coming in the clouds of heaven at that time ? Nope. Jesus wasn't referring to his resurrection, he was referring to his second coming in power & glory.

tatertot

Moonlit waves The best thing for us to do As Christians is to be Christ like and love and pray for these people. Arguing with them is pointless because all they do is go roung and roung in circles. Like you said if we apply their "brainwashed" argument to everyone christian or not, then EVERYONE in the world is Brainwashed because we have ALL come into knowledge of things, ideas and concepts through books we have read things we have been told. So basically Needkarma is not his/her own person either. Everthing she knows has been told to her by someone else and therefore accoding to her own argument, she is not her own person. So to me that is the weakest argument i have herd on this site so far. But anyway my faith is not up for debate and Jesus never said we should force people or try and convince people on a cognative level to believe. What you choose to believe is up to you. God has given us free will otherwise he would have made us robots that just follow him. So who ever wants to discredit or reject him is free to do so.

savedsinner7

To die a physical death on this earth is not the same as the spiritual death that Jesus defeated when He rose again. Please research your context.

Tj3

Deist, this argument was refuted and completely shot down once before. Why are you posting it again?

Galveston1

Deist is blowing smoke. In his original statement he gives us 2 of "several" failed prophecies, both of which several have disposed of. A later wild statement is that the Bible teaches that the world is flat, covered with dome. I challenge him to produce chapter and verse for those "several" failed prophecies of Jesus, and also those passages that teach a flat earth with a dome. If he fails to do so, it will be open admission that he doesn't know what he is talking about. In East Texas redneck language, it is time to put up or shut up.

deist

Does the bible say the earth is flat ? Yes: The bible repeatedly refers to the four corners of the earth (a sphere has no corners). The Hebrew word translated circle in Isa. 40: 22 is chuwg. It simply refers to a compass or circuit or circle. Nowhere does James Strong say it means a sphere (a round ball); a circle is a flat one dimensional object. In the account of Jesus' temptation we are told that Satan took Jesus up into an exceedingly high mountain & showed him all the kingdoms of the world. You cannot see all the kingdoms of the world on a round globe, for no matter how high you go you cannot see the other side of the globe. You could only see all the kingdoms in the world on a flat earth. Other failed prophecies of Jesus: Jesus said all these things (signs leading to the second coming) will come upon "this generation" (his own generation of that day). Jesus also said, "This generation (referring to his own) shall not pass till all these things (signs leading to the second coming) be fulfilled". So including the previous prophecies I posted of Jesus' claim that he would come again in the first century (Matt. 10: 23 & Mark 14: 62), this makes 4 altogether.

deist

Oh, and the Hebrew word (raqiya) tranlated firmament throughout the Old Testament means arch or dome, it originally referred to a piece if metal beaten into shape.

Galveston1

Finally! Something to discuss! Yes, the Bible does refer to the four corners of the Earth. We still do so, referring to NSEW. We still refer to sunrise and sunset, we don't say the Earth has completed another revolution. If you stand on the seashore and look carefully, you will see the curve of the Earth. The Bible doesn't claim to be a science book, but consider this:
Job 26:7
7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
(KJV)
Correct! Earth floats in space. This from the oldest book in the Bible.
As to Satan showing Jesus all the kingdoms of the world, have you never heard of a vision? We have TV, so do you suppose Satan has no means of showing someone whatever he wnats to? Your understanding of Mat. 24 is flawed. The disciples asked 3 questions, not 1, although they may not have understood that clearly at that time. It is not necessary to think that one answer fits all three. The primary interest of the disciples was centered on the temple buildings, and Jesus told them that they would all be destroyed in their lifetimes, and took the opportunity to tell them how to escape if they were in Jerusalem at that time. I have put in quite a bit of time on this chapter, and never got any idea that Jesus said He would return in the first century. You're stretching!