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Old Jun 13, 2008, 07:54 PM
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eating pork

I’ve been told that Bible prohibits the eating of pork. Their proof is: the book of Leviticus, ch 11, v. 7, it is recorded that God declares the pig to be unclean for believers. Then, in verse 8, God says: “You must not eat their meat or touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you.” This command is repeated in Deuteronomy 14:7-8. Then in Isaiah 65:2-4, and 66:17, God issues a stern warning against those who eat pork. Some people are aware of this prohibition from God, but they say they can eat pork because St. Paul said that all food is clean in his letter to the Romans 14:20. St. Paul sid this because he believed (as he wrote in his letter to the Ephesians 2:14-15) that Jesus had abolished the Law with all its commandments and regulations.He seems, however, to have misunderstood what he heard about Jesus. In the Gospel According to Matthew 5:17-20, Jesus is reported to have said quite the contrary, as follows: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law…” Jesus then went on in that passage (in verse 19) to denounce anyone who would break the smallest commandment and teach others likewise. He also praised his true followers who will practice and teach even the smallest commandment. One of the commandments, as we have seen, is to stay away from pork. This is why the true followers of Jesus, holding on to his teachings, did not let unclean food such as pork enter their mouths, so that Peter, the chief disciple can say, “I have never eaten anythng impure or unclean” (Acts of the Apostles, ch 10, v. 14). Five chapters later in the Acts of the Apostles, 15:29, we find that the original disciples still differentiate between clean and unclean foods, and this time Paul is in agreement with them.Six chapters later, in ch. 21, v 25, their decision to impose food regulations on believers is mentioned without regret, and this time Paul is challenged to prove that he is in agreement with them; and he demonstrated his full agreement with them. What remains, then is that Jesus (on whom be peace) upheld the prohibition against pork. His disciples also upheld it. What i want to know is this right or not

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Old Jun 27, 2008, 12:05 AM   #11  
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Although the bible says you cannot serve both GOD and Mammon, I serve both Spam and Spammon.

Our foodstuff
Which art in our kitchen,
Hormel be thy name,
Thy dinner come
Cooked well done,
At home and abroad,
Give us this day our daily Spam,
And forgive us our diets,
As we forgive those that diet amoung us.
Deliver us not into Slimfast,
Deliver us from Treet,
For thine art thy meat and
thy can and thy gel.
Amen

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Old Jun 28, 2008, 09:23 PM   #12  
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Do we just throw this scripture out or say nay it is truth?

Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

The fulfillment of the scripture is when Christ returns...
I don't think that we're are throwing the Scripture just because we are not obeying the laws which are not meant for us, i.e. eating pork, etc.

The bible said "until all be fulfilled". The bible did not said "the fulfillment of the scripture is when Christ returns". Remember what Hebrews 8:13 regarding the Law of Moses "In that He says, "A new covenent," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away." This is one of the indication that Mosaical Law is not for the Christian dispensation.

Some reasons/evidences provided by bible that eating of pork is no longer prohibited:
-Non-eating of pork is a Mosaical Law. According to Acts 13:39 "from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses"
-Vision of St. Peter allowing him by God to eat such kinds of foods (Acts 10-11)
-St Paul said in Colossians 2:16 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days"
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Hebrews 8:13 regarding the Law of Moses "In that He says, "A new covenent," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away." This is one of the indication that Mosaical Law is not for the Christian dispensation.
I do not disagree with this.. We are under the new covenent. But the law of Moses had to do with sacrifice of meat for our forgiveness. And the Truth brought us forgiveness which the laws of sacrifices in the laws of Moses only did so before Christ. The Truth brought us Jesus.. Grace

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Some reasons/evidences provided by bible that eating of pork is no longer prohibited:
-Non-eating of pork is a Mosaical Law. According to Acts 13:39 "from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses"
The Truth in: Acts 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses... and it is saying what I believe to be the truth of Christ

Point of Fact is that I acknowledge we do not have the law of Moses which was done on Passover as a sacrifice of meat for forgiveness. That was done away with in the Truth of Grace =Jesus

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-Vision of St. Peter allowing him by God to eat such kinds of foods (Acts 10-11)
-St Paul said in Colossians 2:16 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days"
Acts 10-11 does not define food that was dropped down as being good. Even Peter was confused Acts 10:17 because he would never eat them being of Jewish religion. But the Spirit told Peter what was to come that was of importance.

Acts 10:19 While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold, three men seek thee. Acts 10:20 Arise therefore, and get thee down, and go with them, doubting nothing: for I have sent them.

This is the subject: Acts 11:28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

Peter was given authority of teaching the Gentiles.. Peter was not to be a stubbling step for them because the Gentiles had their customs previously that could be unholy and cause sin to the weaker.. God had to make sure nothing was done to cause the Gentiles to become unclean after God had ordained them to be clean.

Leviticus has to do with the statutes.. Following the protective statutes of what is basicly healthy to eat and not healthy. Is pork or lobster good for us? Pork is swine..lobster is a bottom eater.. This queastion has nothing to do with judgement in sin...
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Leviticus has to do with the statutes.. Following the protective statutes of what is basicly healthy to eat and not healthy. Is pork or lobster good for us? Pork is swine..lobster is a bottom eater.. This queastion has nothing to do with judgement in sin...
Just a clarification question: Do you mean to say that the Levital Statutes during the Mosaical Era has nothing to do with judgment in sin?

I agree by the fact that eating pork and lobster is not healthy.
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I have seen arguments both for and against
the against sounds more convincing
mainly about the New Testament's distinction about clean and unclean meat
Dietary Laws
but I really am not convinced God will turn you away for eating pork.

I kind of believe that law was to the Jews and the old testament.
In the same chapter it also says to wear 100% cotton or wool how many Christians actually do that consistently?
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[quote=N0help4u] but I really am not convinced God will turn you away for eating pork.[quote]

My opinion does not include pork as a sin , please be sure to note that when you read this... Remember in KJV Leviticus 10:10 And that ye may put difference between holy and unholy, and between unclean and clean;

Pork eaten or lobster could be considered unclean but not unholy unless you are eating it as a sacriifice.. Thus making it a sin...

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KJV Proverbs 6:23 For the commandment [is] a lamp; and the law [is] light; and reproofs of instruction [are] the way of life:


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It all gets confusing to me but I agree.
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I disagree with most replies ... God is for all .. whether you are jew, christian, muslim or other .. so why would god prohibit some and allow others eat pork ?? .. big contradiction .. So as not to get lost in misinterpretations and many opinions .. consult science and let enlightment guide you through your life and support your belief .. That is God should not and DOES NOT contradict with science ... which says that pork is carnivore and has much in common with dogs (it has no sweat glands in skin and has canines)...
If it is bad (fatty, source of parasites, viruses..etc.) why would many eat it ?? Simple, its high reproduction rate and the fact that it eats almost anything (from cereals, insects to meat). Means it costs cheaper to produce compared to beef.
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God did forbid it for the Jews to eat pork in the old testament and most Jews and many religions D0 still follow that but I do believe that God allows us to eat pork now.
Some say they were told not to eat pork because of parasites and it being too easy to get sick by not keeping and cooking it properly.
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I disagree with most replies ... God is for all .. whether you are jew, christian, muslim or other .. so why would god prohibit some and allow others eat pork ?? .. big contradiction .. So as not to get lost in misinterpretations and many opinions .. consult science and let enlightment guide you through your life and support your belief .. That is God should not and DOES NOT contradict with science ... which says that pork is carnivore and has much in common with dogs (it has no sweat glands in skin and has canines)...
If it is bad (fatty, source of parasites, viruses..etc.) why would many eat it ?? Simple, its high reproduction rate and the fact that it eats almost anything (from cereals, insects to meat). Means it costs cheaper to produce compared to beef.
I don't belive pork is prohibited in Christian dispensation but I would like to apologize but I just don't like the 2 notions you said that (sorry because I am very particular with wording sometimes):

You said "consult science and let enlightment guide you through your life and support your belief" and "That is God should not and DOES NOT contradict with science".

I also dislike the phrase "should not" as I bolded above.

Science cannot fully support your belief. Science cannot describe in whole the Majesty of God. Science sometimes contradict what was written (ie. Theory of Evolution, Big Bang Theory, etc.) and sometimes God defies Science (ie. Resurrection, abrupt healing, etc).

To sum it all, just because science said so it doesn't follow that it is the Truth.
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