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Feb 7, 2008, 02:01 AM
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| | | Interesting Encounter some mormans came to my door the other day, and being polite as i am had huge trouble in snobbing them, they talked about this guy and how he was supposedly given the right to be a prophet or whatever and they were saying, its the same faith being followed, theres no change between the values of chistianity and morman...ism. just the bible and the book of morman, and the book of morman is excerpts from the bible...
why do they say they believe the "same faith" but call it something different? | | | | | | |
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Feb 7, 2008, 02:43 AM
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| I'd be surprised to hear a Mormon using the term "same faith". Did one of them actually say that? And if so, what was he saying Mormonism is the same as? |
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Feb 7, 2008, 02:49 AM
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| im pretty sure he said its the same faith as christianity but jesus failed and god sent someone else in like the 1800's it was crazy what he was on about but im pretty sure that was it |
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Feb 7, 2008, 02:59 AM
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| I can only guess that the one at your door was new to proselytizing - or that you misunderstood. Typically they will be quite clear about the differences - and from what I know most Mormons would never use that phrase in speaking of their faith and mainstream Christianity.
Of those who call themselves Christian, Mormons make up about one half of one percent.
The other 99.5% have very opposing beliefs on many issues. |
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Feb 7, 2008, 08:46 AM
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| The Book of Mormon picks up where the Bible leaves off...you know...where it says in Revelation 22:18, "If anyone adds to them, GOD will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes words away from this Book of prophecy, GOD will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city." |
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Feb 7, 2008, 08:49 AM
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| While not siding with the Mormons, I must say:
By "Them", the author was speaking of the words in his own writing (Revelation), not of Scripture in general.
...and even if he were speaking of "scripture" - we have to realize that nothing in what we call the New Testament was considered scripture at the time.
...so in reality, everything in the New Testament was "added to Scripture"  |
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Feb 7, 2008, 11:24 AM
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| Mormonism is very different from mainstream Christianity concerning its beliefs although it is based on Christianity. |
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Feb 7, 2008, 03:41 PM
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| The Mormon "prophets" are definitely adding to God's word.
"I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. (Rev.22:18-19)
Not just in Revelation...
Deuteronomy 4:2--Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the Lord your God that I give you.
Jesus could never fail and it is only through Him that we can be saved.
Revelation was written down by John. He wrote what Jesus had revealed to him.
"The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, who testifies to everything he saw--that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. Blessed is the one who reads the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near." (Rev. 1:1-3)
Now there are no prophets. God does not speak personally to anyone anymore.
"For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears." (1 Corinthians 13:9-10)
Perfection came with the completion of God's Holy Word. |
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Feb 7, 2008, 04:26 PM
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| Yes Mormons are a denomination within the Christian faith, they do have some customs and beleifs that are not commom within other groups,
And while I have my personal beliefs, there are many groups who claim they have people who are prophets, and hear from God, Billy Graham for example. And one has to compare perhaps the books he often writes, if that is also considered adding to the bible if we use that respect.
But in the Book of Mormon the book contains teachings that have many of the same faiths and teachings in the bible, but bring Jesus comming to America to the native indians esp in the South America area.
We have to understand with all respect to Donna, that the bible was never one book, it was a group of seperate writtings and the early church held meetings and investigated writings to determine which ones were considered valid, and which ones were the most accepted to be included into the bible. There were many other great writings that was not as well used that were not included and several writings there were considered false and not used either.
We can tell a prophet by comparing what they saw by the word of God.But being a prophet is a gift from God and would not have eneded, we merely have to read the bible to know they still exist.
1 Corinthians 12:28
28And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, also those having gifts of healing, those able to help others, those with gifts of administration, and those speaking in different kinds of tongues. |
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Feb 7, 2008, 06:46 PM
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| I have to go back to the scripture I quoted before: "For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears."
When the New Testament was complete, it was perfect. 1 Corinthians was before the completion. We also don't have workers of miracles and gifts of healing. We have no one who could come forward and truly perform a miracle today, such as raising someone from the dead or immediate healing. God has given us doctors to do our healing today, but I have yet to see a so called prophet of today do anything like the prophets of the New Testament.
I believe that God is in control of our Bible, and if He would of wanted us to read and study the other books you speak of He would have seen to it that they were included in our Bible today. After all He has all the power to make sure His word is exactly as He wants it. So I won't worry about any other books, the Bible is all I need. |
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