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You both emphasise following tradition as sheep, and forget that a personal relationship with the Creator comes before the books and scriptures of ancient man. There is no difference. Humans make one for their own purposes.
My point was that Islam, and Christianity, are but different limbs of the same tree, and both, along with Judaism, came from the same religious belief and the differences are MAN-MADE!!. They all can trace there roots to Abraham and the old testament. Sorry you missed the point.
My point was that Islam, and Christianity, are but different limbs of the same tree, and both, along with Judaism, came from the same religious belief and the differences are MAN-MADE!!. They all can trace there roots to Abraham and the old testament. Sorry you missed the point.
If you were trying to make historical reference as to the origin of these religions, why did you make a comment referring the ways that people practice it. MY point was that you cannot possibly know how each person values their personal relationship with their Creater. It is wrong to say that "there is no difference." In saying this you probably only revealed your own personal feelings towards organized religion, and you feel that people spend more time focusing on the letter of the law instead of the spirit of the law.
This is normal, however, for a person to lump groups together of which they don't belong. Many Americans think that all Arabs are the same, but it would be safe to say that most Arabs would take offense to this comment. People lump together groups because they either don't know the differences, don't understand the differences, don't care to see the differences.
I am merely saying that just because 2 people look alike, came from the same family, and have similar characteristics, this doesn't mean that they are completely the same. Everyone and everything is unique and this should be recognized. I do, however, acknowledge that there are similar characteristics between Christianity and Islam. Quite different though.
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Very good post Starman, and I think it can apply to humanity today, as we know the world is covered with humans who have evolved with many interpretations of their limited universes, to explain life as they see it. This changes as there is more interactions with those of opposing views, and the free exchange of methods or ideas take place. As humans all the tribes of the earth are caught in the conflict of promoting their own particular view point, as history tells us many wars, and much blood has been spilled, in the pursuit of extending influence, and gaining power, thru Control of resources under the guise of religious belief, and divine power assumed by those to control the masses. All the religions of the Earth have used God as their battle cry to exterminate or dominate other humans, in this push for power and control. I imagine the same thing plays out on other populated planets in the same way, and someday we on Earth will stop the killing, to rise above the restraints of our own boundaries, and meet new life among the stars that have hopefully gone thru the same changes and have bridged the distance you have mentioned. But first we must bridge the differences here on earth.
Yes, I agree that cultural differences are a great of disruption between humans.
But these cultural differences between humans might pale in contrast to the perceptual incompatibilities we might encounter out there on other planets if God allowed us to.
To illustrate, let's consider a scenario where two hundred aliens were visually exposed to a triangular glass prism. One might say that it sees a green undulating gelatinous mass. Another might perceive the prism as a black hole. Still another might not see anything at all. Ad infinitum, Which of these millions of perceptions represents ultimate reality? Each alien might honestly believe its perception to be the correct one. And even if each alien knew the cause for the perceptual differences was neural hardwiring, still the question of what really is the object, if any, which seemingly stimulates the response in each alien's case would enigmatically remain and the answer would forever hover just beyond each alien's perceptual reach.
Imagine inviting three ambassadors to board your streamlined state-of-the art ship?
The non-human reactions might be as follows: One might say he doesn't see any ship. The other might be blinded by its brilliance even though it's painted a dull black. Yet another might back away fearfully thinking that to board the black hole you call a ship is to commit suicide. Who would be perceiving the ship correctly we or they?
We might board the ship in what we consider a few minutes. An alien might
see us moving in slow motion and taking days to traverse the distance and become frustrated. The ship's interior might smell of leather, new paint, and plastics to us, but to them it might wreak of putrefying flesh. In fact, we might smell the same way forcing them to don gas masks wnenever we come near. They in turn might smell like roses to us but another species hurl their breakfast in reaction to their perceived stench.
So IMHO life on other planets might very often be far stranger to us than we can presently imagine and so incompatible with our perceptual abilities as to make communication very difficult if not almost impossible.
I have to agree there may be a lot of problems to be solved, many may be difficult, especially since we humans have problems on Earth. But they still keep trying as seen by the shuttle launch a few days ago, on amission to upgrade the International space station. They had to stay a couple of days to make repairs to the shuttle insulation. Problems to be solved all the time. Did you know the upgrades are in preparation for a Mars venture???
I have to agree there may be a lot of problems to be solved, many may be difficult, especially since we humans have problems on Earth. But they still keep trying as seen by the shuttle launch a few days ago, on amission to upgrade the International space station. They had to stay a couple of days to make repairs to the shuttle insulation. Problems to be solved all the time. Did you know the upgrades are in preparation for a Mars venture???
Yes, I know that they are gradually preparing to take that major leap to Mars. But before they do they are aiming for a moon base. Actually, when I was a kid I took it for granted that a moon base would have been established long before the year 2000. Especially after I viewed the film "2001 A Space Oddysee" where flights to the moon were portrayed as routine events. But here we are still in earth orbit. Not to say that caution should be thrown to the wind. Human life can easily be lost in this venture as has happened two times now on our shuttles. But I think that once mankind turns lunar flights into a routine event it will have gained the confidence and experience needed to reach for the Red planet and, and if God permits, beyond.
Of course the only life they are expecting to find on Mars is microbial. But who knows what variety of life the creator might have decided to place there? In fact, some claim to have found it already. Evidence of Ancient Martian Life in Meteorite ALH84001?
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