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Old Apr 22, 2009, 05:59 PM
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Doubts about the Bible

Umm, I haven't got any doubts about the bible, but a teacher asked me to come up with some questions about where the bible would contradict itself or something like that, and he would answer me the best way possible. Do you have any doubts about the bible?
He told us to look every for doubts, and this is not school, it is a discussion/class I have in my free time, so it isn't homework. I have looked everywhere, but I can't find a SENSIBLE question to ask.

 
     

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Old Apr 22, 2009, 07:28 PM   #11  
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were you talking to me in the first bit??? I said I forgot about that not forget; I was trying to help by pointing to the book it would be in and why.

Totally agree w/ Jake too; even though I don't beleive in the new testament, the old testament has it's moments when it comes to contradictions and they shouldn't be looked at unless in the context of the rest of the writings.
interesting? why don't you believe in the NT?
 
 
     
 
 
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The point of this exercise was to prove that the bible has no contradictions, and that if you read it carefully you will find out. We had to come up with five questions/doubts/contradictions from friends, family, etc. I couldn't see any contradictions in the bible myself, so that is why I thought it would be a good idea to post the question here, to get some ideas, not to start a theological debate.
 
 
     
 
 
Old Apr 22, 2009, 10:30 PM   #13  
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I agree that there seems to be contradictions in the bible, but that is often the case where someone reads but does not study what the bibles says or is completely unaware of the culture and history of the times the various books were written.
It's like the one which some people often quote regarding the statement in Revelation "ch 22: 19. if anyone cuts anything out of the prophecies in this book, God will cut off his share of the tree of life and of the holy city, which are described in the book."
And they apply it to the entire bible which should not be done because the statement applies only to the book of Revelation and not to the many books which were written before Revelation was.
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Jesushelper76 agrees: Very good point and example.
 
 
     
 
 
Old Apr 24, 2009, 04:08 AM   #14  
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How about the part where the guy comes back from the dead.

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galveston disagrees: What contridiction are you talking about?
Altenweg agrees: Balancer. Not factually incorrect.
Leviston agrees: Balancer.Read the rules
 
 
     
 
 
Old Apr 24, 2009, 05:11 AM   #15  
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How about the part where the guy comes back from the dead.
How do you see this as a controversy or contradiction?
 
 
     
 
 
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I don't. I see it as something to have doubt over, as the OP asked.
 
 
     
 
 
Old Apr 25, 2009, 09:33 AM   #17  
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Seeming contradictions involving numbers are indeed there.
Hebrew, like some other languages uses letters for numbers. The differences make no difference to the history or doctrines, and are probably due to a copyists error in one letter.

I have a standing challenge for anyone to present a biblical contradiction of any substance; ie, anything that affects the meaning, teaching, or history.

We are talking about CONTRADICTIONS here, NOT whether you believe the Bible or not.
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About the geneologies given in Matt. & Luke. One is Joseph's which shows Jesus' LEGAL claim to the throne of Isael due to his being the adopted son of Joseph, the other is Mary's geneology that shows that through her, Jesus is descended from king David.

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Leviston disagrees: You need to read the rules, before you start handing out reddies
 
 
     
 
 
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Right you are about that.
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Seeming contradictions involving numbers are indeed there.
Hebrew, like some other languages uses letters for numbers. The differences make no difference to the history or doctrines, and are probably due to a copyists error in one letter.

I have a standing challenge for anyone to present a biblical contradiction of any substance; ie, anything that affects the meaning, teaching, or history.

We are talking about CONTRADICTIONS here, NOT whether you believe the Bible or not.
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About the geneologies given in Matt. & Luke. One is Joseph's which shows Jesus' LEGAL claim to the throne of Isael due to his being the adopted son of Joseph, the other is Mary's geneology that shows that through her, Jesus is descended from king David.
Nice try but in hebrew the numbers were written out for e,.g for 21 they wrote twenty one not a 2 and 1, so your explanation is garbage .Its not liked whjen copying someone missed a 0.Quit playing games.You can maybe foul these people, but not me, i have spent almost half of my life studying different religions.As for more contradictions there are millions of them.I would have to write a book.

Also read the rules on when to gives reddies, just like your bible i am sure you have not read the rules either
 
 
     
 
 
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II SAMUEL 24

The Numbering

AND again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

While the author of Samuel 24 above, makes God the boss of the situation, the author of Chronicles below gives credit to the Devil.
I CHRONICLES 21

The Numbering

AND SATAN stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

Matthew and Luke are over-zealous in making DAVID the King, the prime ancestor of Jesus, because of that false notion that Jesus was to sit on the "THRONE OF HIS FATHER DAVID" (Acts 2:30). The Gospels belie this prophecy, for they tell us that instead of Jesus sitting on his father's (David's) throne, it was Pontious Pilate, a Roman Governor, a pagan who sat on that very throne and condemned its rightful (?) heir (Jesus) to death. "Never mind,'' says the christians, "if not in his first coming, then in his second coming he will fulfill this prophecy and three hundred others beside But with their extravagant enthusiasm to trace the ancestry of Jesus physically to David, (for this is actually what the Bible says — THAT OF THE FRUIT OF HIS (David's) LOINS, ACCORDING TO THE FLESH" (literally, not metaphorically Acts 2:30), both the "inspired" authors trip and fall on the very first step.
 
 
     
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