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Old Jul 20, 2007, 07:44 PM
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Does jesus live? Show me proof.

How much longer before he come back,
anyone know, let me know please...

 
     

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Old Jul 22, 2007, 09:00 AM   #51  
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Everyone has questions!! I don't care how religious or how non religious you are. Just some are raised to believe so strongly or others are so warped to even think of asking questions that might interfere with their beliefs.


Self_inflicted_hell you've done it again.
 
 
     
 
 
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Wikipedia tries to be unbiased at all times:
Level of support for evolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is quite a good article which actually is quite favourable towards creationism.

True, yet I could simply dismiss it by saying that the author is biased--no? Actually, the real question is what constitutes bias? Which of course is a totally different subject which will throw the whoile trhread off theme. Perhaps the subject can be discussed further in another forum such as philosophy? In any case, thanks for your decent informative responses. : )
 
 
     
 
 
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Do you have any non-evolutionist sources which support evolution? All the pro evolutionist sources are rather biased. Actually, as soon as a pro or con statement is made it can easily be tagged as biased simply because the one making it or the source
from which it is derived is pro or con. That would make all pro democracy statements by the USA government biased. It would make all anti rape statements by anti rape sources biased. All pro space exploration statements of NASA biased. Isn't that rather strange?

True, a non-commited source is preferable. But then again that source, such as perhaps Time Magazine will feature articles by a certain writer, like Hawkings, who is an atheist
and pro evolutionist. Does that make the article unbiased because it appears in a supposedly unbiased Magazine? In fact, the argument can be made that if Time Magazine features predominantly pro Evolutionist articles it is biased despite its claims otherwise.


The public education system which systematically indoctrinates or inculcates pro evolutionary and anti creation ideas and all the pro atheist literature it uses is biased.
Yet the very same people who are very keen on Creationist sources are the very ones defending the biased way in which our children are taught simply because it fits in
with their preconceptions and biases.

THE EVOLUTION DECEIT

Starman: an oxymoron is a christian scientist, a conflictiog situation, what do you think.
 
 
     
 
 
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Starman: an oxymoron is a christian scientist, a conflictiog situation, what do you think.
Not exactly....as i said in my other reply, It says in the Bible that God also created science.
I really do not think it says anywhere in the Bible that God doesn't want us to believe in science altogether. Because he created it. Don't you think that if he hadn't then many people would die of all those mortal diseases, I don't think God wants that.
Yet, taking it all the way back to Adam and Eve, remember, they disobeyed God. The world was perfect before that happened. Remember it says that the serpent offered them "knowledge?" To know "Good from bad?" Remember it says that the serpent/satan is always misleading? That it's actions seem like it's the right thing but it's just dressed up.
Anyway when Adam and Eve decided to take the serpent's offer, God punished them. Yeah they acquired "knowledge" but just take a look at how we're using it now. Now we use the science that God created for something evil. Such as weapons and all sorts of things that damage this world and God's people. Which it is the price to pay for that initial disobedience. Since then, satan has been controlling our actions. And what Jesus was and still is trying to do, is save us from what we ourselves put us into.

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otto186 disagrees: Just as I knew, it does not say in the Bible that God created science. You lead on to me that it was in the Bible.
 
 
     
 
 
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Not exactly....as i said in my other reply, It says in the Bible that God also created science.

Out of curiosity, where in the Bible does it say that? I would like to read it. I have read the Old and New Testaments of the Bible, and part of the King James, and nowhere did I read that God created science. So please, enlighten me.
 
 
     
 
 
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God created everything. God is the creator of everything. So that means he created the minds for science and discovery as well.
 
 
     
 
 
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God created everything. God is the creator of everything. So that means he created the minds for science and discovery as well.

Can you point me in the direction of where it says that he created science in the Bible? Thanks
 
 
     
 
 
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I never made that statement but since God is the creator of everything. That would mean that God created man the mind to actually understand science.
 
 
     
 
 
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I never made that statement but since God is the creator of everything. That would mean that God created man the mind to actually understand science.

I know you didnt make that statement, I was just wondering if you could point me in the right direction.

If God created everything, show me black and white, hard evidence, or proof. I can explain how everything came to be through the science, astronomy and the theory of evolution.
 
 
     
 
 
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In the bible it states that God created the world. So to me that says he created everything.

As far as saying specifically science, the answer is no. Since God created all things then that would lead me to believe that God is in charge of all things. Right? Even Science?
 
 
     
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