Does jesus live? Show me proof.

otto186 · Jul 22, 2007, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesushelper76

God gave freewill to all people. That is included you otto. Anyway, I am enjoying this discussion but will have to continue it another time. I am getting sleepy. Lol

Take care of yourself.

Joe

Have a good night

METERRE · Jul 22, 2007, 07:47 PM

By the way where in the world is the person who originally started this post?

The fact is that you have your beliefs and we have ours, and it sounds like you won't be letting go of yours soon, and we probably won't be letting go of ours. So it seems like this topic is a showdown but with no winner or looser.

otto186 · Jul 22, 2007, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by METERRE

By the way where in the world is the person who originally started this post?

The fact is that you have your beliefs and we have ours, and it sounds like you won't be letting go of yours soon, and we probably won't be letting go of ours. So it seems like this topic is a showdown but with no winner or looser.

Its an enlightening conversation. I enjoy it because I learn new things.

METERRE · Jul 22, 2007, 08:04 PM

I agree with you otto, you certainly are able to learn more with these topics. And by the way, you asked earlier....."What if you're wrong?" Here's one advantage we have. If in case, I don't mean to doubt, we could be wrong, then we don't have to worry about it because nothing will happen to us. On the other hand, if YOU'RE wrong, then I don't really want to imagine what might happen. I'm am so not trying to judge you though, in my belief, God will deal with you like he sees it best.

otto186 · Jul 22, 2007, 08:10 PM

I would give you a good rating but it says to spread the reputation.

Great answer. With your response, lets just hope I'm right, because Hell would probably not be good to me. LOL

Have a good night.

Otto

letmetellu · Jul 22, 2007, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Capuchin

This is fairly easy to show proof for. I don't see your argument here.

Starman, do you have any non-creationist sources that state that scientists are tending more towards creationism? Surely the sources that you have used are rather biased.
Yes many scientists believe in God, I have no argument with that. A belief in God can live happily alongside the scientific truth of evolution, and this is the view of most religious scientists.

I was not making an argument, only showing that a person needs faith. I have faith that the sun will rise tomorrow but I am not positive, and just because it has done it for thousands of years does not mean it will tomorrow.

otto186 · Jul 22, 2007, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by letmetellu

I was not making an argument, only showing that a person needs faith. I have faith that the sun will rise tomorrow but I am not positive, and just because it has done it for thousands of years does not mean it will tomorrow.

You do not need faith to know the sun is going to rise tomorrow. It is a scientific fact that the sun is going to rise tomorrow, unless something catastrophic happens in the next few hours, which I doubt will happen.

METERRE · Jul 22, 2007, 08:25 PM

But then in my belief God can terminate, make or destroy what and when he wants. So I have to say I'm split in this. Yes scientifically the sun WILL rise tommorrow, UNLESS something does happen which will not let it do so. So I know it will, but still have faith that it will. Does that make any sense?

otto186 · Jul 22, 2007, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by METERRE

But then in my belief God can terminate, make or destroy what and when he wants. So I have to say I'm split in this. Yes scientifically the sun WILL rise tommorrow, UNLESS something does happen which will not let it do so. So I know it will, but still have faith that it will. Does that make any sense?

It makes sense to me. I understand you are torn between religion and what you can prove, all I can really say is step back and look at the big picture. I am sure you will make the right choice for you. Have a good night. Its been fun talking to you.

METERRE · Jul 22, 2007, 08:38 PM

No, I am not doubting my belief in God and all I've said. If that's what you understood. Ok I guess not even I understood myself though. Anyway good night to you too.

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