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Home > Society & Culture > Religion > Christianity   »   Does jesus live? Show me proof.

 
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Old Jul 20, 2007, 07:44 PM
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Does jesus live? Show me proof.

How much longer before he come back,
anyone know, let me know please...

 
     

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Old Jul 22, 2007, 06:02 PM   #61  
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In the bible it states that God created the world. So to me that says he created everything.

As far as saying specifically science, the answer is no. Since God created all things then that would lead me to believe that God is in charge of all things. Right? Even Science?

Now let me ask you, what if you're wrong? I respect your beliefs and religion, but what if? Because I am not convinced unless I can see it for myself, or it can be proven.
 
 
     
 
 
Old Jul 22, 2007, 06:08 PM   #62  
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I also didn't mean to sound as if it physically in words and directly states "God created science" or anything like that. I did mean that it does say he made the world perfect. Perfect as in everything works with each other. Everything is in harmony, such as the cycle of life. It works. Cycle after cycle, if not, everything would be a mess. And i agree with Jesushelper76, he gave us minds so we could understand his creations. States that he created us in his own image. He understands how he created the world, therefore he most probably thinks we should too. Just that we are very far from knowing this world as well as he does....because he's the Supreme Being and no one but him understands everything.
I hope that my attempt to "enlighten" you didn't confuse you more about my point.
 
 
     
 
 
Old Jul 22, 2007, 06:14 PM   #63  
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I also didn't mean to sound as if it physically in words and directly states "God created science" or anything like that. I did mean that it does say he made the world perfect. Perfect as in everything works with each other. Everything is in harmony, such as the cycle of life. It works. Cycle after cycle, if not, everything would be a mess. And i agree with Jesushelper76, he gave us minds so we could understand his creations. States that he created us in his own image. He understands how he created the world, therefore he most probably thinks we should too. Just that we are very far from knowing this world as well as he does....because he's the Supreme Being and no one but him understands everything.
I hope that my attempt to "enlighten" you didn't confuse you more about my point.

In your theory God gave us a mind, but after a time, we learned and evolved to survive in a changing environment. Hence, the theory of evolution.
 
 
     
 
 
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What if you're wrong? I also do respect your beliefs. I have nothing to lose eighter way? Do I ? The thing with me is that I have always had a strong personal belief since I was young. Since I can remember. The belief has always been within me. I focus on the unseen. There is a lot of things in this world and others that are unseen but does not mean it does not exist. Like the example I gave before. Air, we can not see it but it is there. For me it has been proven time and time again. I am alive. I am living. Look at all the things that are around us. Oceans, Sun, Moon, stars, so many different life forms. I have always had my prayers answered. I have always had a connection to the unseen. I know I may be going on. I just want to show you and let you see where I am coming from. I have a family, we just created a son together. He is 10 months old now. These are all things that would not be possible without us having a creator.

Another thing I would like to point out that we are all creators. Where did we get this from? We are all creators. That would mean that we had to have a creator ourselves. Just like we are creators for others. We were created in Gods image. Like M said, we were given the mind to explore and create as well.
 
 
     
 
 
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What if you're wrong? I also do respect your beliefs. I have nothing to lose eighter way? Do I ? The thing with me is that I have always had a strong personal belief since I was young. Since I can remember. The belief has always been within me. I focus on the unseen. There is a lot of things in this world and others that are unseen but does not mean it does not exist. Like the example I gave before. Air, we can not see it but it is there. For me it has been proven time and time again. I am alive. I am living. Look at all the things that are around us. Oceans, Sun, Moon, stars, so many different life forms. I have always had my prayers answered. I have always had a connection to the unseen. I know I may be going on. I just want to show you and let you see where I am coming from. I have a family, we just created a son together. He is 10 months old now. These are all things that would not be possible without us having a creator.

Another thing I would like to point out that we are all creators. Where did we get this from? We are all creators. That would mean that we had to have a creator ourselves. Just like we are creators for others.

I will answer your question first. If I am wrong, then I am wrong. And I will me damned to Hell for all eternity for blasphemy. If i'm right, then nothing happens.

Growing up I was instilled with a strong sense of religion and church. But when I got to the age when I was old enough to understand what was going on, I began to question. No one could prove to me what I had been told most of my life was true. I have done the research, I have studied religion for countless years, but still cant find any hard physical proof. Like you, I do have a family, two boys, one 2 1/2, one three months. Like I have said before, everything that "God" has created I can explain with science.
 
 
     
 
 
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Science is not the creator? Science is explanations of creation seen through some people.
 
 
     
 
 
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Science is not the creator? Science is explanations of creation seen through some people.

I never once said that science was the creator. I stated that I can explain the creation of the universe, and the creation of man, THROUGH science. The "creator" is no more than a series of events that happened at the right place, at the right time.
 
 
     
 
 
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God also gave us free will therefore also doubt. But also i should say satan uses his influence to inflict the doubt. I mean even Jesus doubted.

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God also gave us free will therefore also doubt. But also i should say satan uses his influence to inflict the doubt. I mean even Jesus doubted.

I'm Atheist, this does not apply to me.
 
 
     
 
 
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God gave freewill to all people. That is included you otto. Anyway, I am enjoying this discussion but will have to continue it another time. I am getting sleepy. lol

Take care of yourself.

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