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Here's just a thought. There are Christian soldiers in the war in Iraq. As you must know all those middle east countries do not believe in the Christian Bible or Jesus. Perhaps some of those soldiers might be trying to spread God's word??? Any comments or corrections on this??
I have been overseas. I fought in Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom. I also participated in the Battle of Fallujah in 2004. My experience, they are just as hard headed there as we are here. They have no problem having a conversaion about differences, or if you're just curious and want to learn. But just like with Christianity, there is no other God before their own, Allah.
I have been overseas. I fought in Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom. I also participated in the Battle of Fallujah in 2004. My experience, they are just as hard headed there as we are here. They have no problem having a conversaion about differences, or if you're just curious and want to learn. But just like with Christianity, there is no other God before their own, Allah.
I think for muslims the difference to other religions is that we already believe that Moses,Noah,Jesus etc are special/beloved in the sight of Allah, and believe they are among our messengers, hence they are not too keen on accepting them as Gods/demi gods.
Another thing is specially when people are defending their very own lives,their families it must be hard enough keeping faith or it could be Only faith that keeps them going.
Did you really fight in the war, must have seen things that are harsh and cruel.
I have been overseas. I fought in Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom. I also participated in the Battle of Fallujah in 2004. My experience, they are just as hard headed there as we are here. They have no problem having a conversaion about differences, or if you're just curious and want to learn. But just like with Christianity, there is no other God before their own, Allah.
I think for muslims the difference to other religions is that we already believe that Moses,Noah,Jesus etc are special/beloved in the sight of Allah, and believe they are among our messengers, hence they are not too keen on accepting them as Gods/demi gods.
Another thing is specially when people are defending their very own lives,their families it must be hard enough keeping faith or it could be Only faith that keeps them going.
Did you really fight in the war, must have seen things that are harsh and cruel.
sorry about the repetition,something went wrong here..
why do we need proof of jesus? other than our own personal proofs.
faith!
i have seen people i trust and admire, who are rational people, who would never lie to me, tell me face to face, that jesus exists, that they have felt gods touch, and that is enough to me.
i walk into a room, our church, and see so many people that i have grown to trust and admire in one place.
are there like 50 people, in one place, who you would trust with your life? who all believe the same thing?
I've gone to catholic churches all throughout my life because my parents took me, the sad thing is that i can tell just by looking at a glance around the room, that atleast 60% of the people there don't quite have anything to be doing there. Not trying to offend them in any way but i think it's the truth. I mean, women fixing their hair, scolding their restless children, guys looking at girls. Minds wandering off, chatter, in shorter words, their mind and soul aren't focused on the point of being there. So i guess what i'm saying is, i haven't seen 50 people at once in which i would ever trust with my life.
Here's just a thought. There are Christian soldiers in the war in Iraq. As you must know all those middle east countries do not believe in the Christian Bible or Jesus. Perhaps some of those soldiers might be trying to spread God's word??? Any comments or corrections on this??
Well you must be really dumb because Jesus was middleastern. 30 percent of palestinians are christian. 50 percent of lebanon is christian you idiot. Their prince is christian. Look this up...why would you take this away from them? The bells go off on sundays in Iran for Churches. You need to meet more middle eastern people. I can't believe this post thinks everyone in the middle east does not believe in Jesus? Muslims even believe in JEsus! Their holy book talks about MAry for an entire chapter. Go to your local book store and read on this...
Well you must be really dumb because Jesus was middleastern. 30 percent of palestinians are christian. 50 percent of lebanon is christian you idiot. Their prince is christian. Look this up...why would you take this away from them? The bells go off on sundays in Iran for Churches. You need to meet more middle eastern people. I can't believe this post thinks everyone in the middle east does not believe in Jesus? Muslims even believe in JEsus! Their holy book talks about MAry for an entire chapter. Go to your local book store and read on this...
If you are going to post something, please research before you post. Lebanon is only 39% Christian, and 60% Muslim. The U.A.E. (which is where I was deployed to) is 96% Muslim.
You were right on one part, they do believe in Jesus, but only as a messenger to mankind. The God of Gods in the Muslim religion is Allah.
You were way off point. METERRE was referring to Americans spreading the word of God. He/she (sorry i'm not sure) never said anything about taking anything away from them. You owe this person an apology, and do everyone a favor and read posts more carefully before responding.
Once again i must clarify myself. I do know that there are Christians in those countries, but what i had in mind was that they don't believe in Jesus like we do. As in the Son of God, just like someone else stated. I never said i thought everyone in those countries don't believe in God or Jesus. And of course i know that no matter in what language you say God, he's still considered the same being. Excuse me for my confusing posts.
And who doesn't know that Jesus was from one of those countries? It's so not my intention to take anything away from them. Sorry if in any way i offended anyone.
Let me tell you something mario3, calling someone an idiot right off the bat says a lot more about you, than it really does about the other person. Before you judge someone just take a look at yourself first.
And just to pinpoint something my post was just a simple suggestion which i asked for correction, i mean, no one has all the answers. But really thanks anyway for your info.
Otto, I meant to disagree with you. Allah just means God in another language. Also, Jesus is the Messiah (the Muslim text says this). He is a dear prophet of God, but he is not considered a birth child of God.
If its wrong, I apologize. But it says here that Jesus was a messenger, it never says prophet. If messenger and prophet are the same thing, well it looks like i learned something new.
If its wrong, I apologize. But it says here that Jesus was a messenger, it never says prophet. If messenger and prophet are the same thing, well it looks like i learned something new.
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" Behold! Allah took the covenant of the prophets, saying: "I give you a Book and Wisdom; then comes to you a messenger, confirming what is with you; do ye believe in him and render him help." Allah said: "Do ye agree, and take this my Covenant as binding on you?" They said: "We agree." He said: "Then bear witness, and I am with you among the witnesses."
"Verse 3:81, among many other verses, provides the definitions of "Nabi" (Prophet) and "Rasoul" (Messenger). Thus, "Nabi" is a messenger of God who delivers a new scripture, while "Rasoul" is a messenger commissioned by God to confirm existing scripture; he does not bring a new scripture. According to the Quran, every "Nabi" is a "Rasoul," but not every "Rasoul" is a "Nabi." It is not logical that God will give a scripture to a prophet, then ask him to keep it exclusively for himself, as stated by some Muslim "scholars" (2:42, 146, 159).
The Quranic definition of Prophet, and how all the prophets were given Scripture to deliver, is also confirmed in the following verse:
"The people used to be one community when God sent THE PROPHETS as bearers of good news, as well as warners. HE SENT DOWN WITH THEM THE SCRIPTURE, bearing the truth, to judge among the people in their disputes" 2:213
"In other terms ALL THE PROPHETS are MESSENGERS, but NOT ALL the MESSENGERS are PROPHETS."
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