Do all paths eventually lead to God?

0EntitY · Jul 13, 2009, 11:36 AM

The right path leads to the "realization" of God. Jesus at the time was telling people, "Ye are Gods", and,

" Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you."

I go by what Jesus himself said and not what preacher Bob says Jesus said. There is a big, big difference...

Tj3 · Jul 13, 2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 0EntitY

The right path leads to the "realization" of God. Jesus at the time was telling people, "Ye are Gods", and,

" Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you."

I go by what Jesus himself said and not what preacher Bob says Jesus said. There is a big, big difference...

In John 10:34 the people that he was referring to were unsaved (John 10:26), and were unjust judges because His references to Psalm 82. He was therefore speaking judgment against those who tried to elevate themselves to be gods, and who felt themselves worthy to judge Him.

galveston · Jul 13, 2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello:

So, a nice Jewish boy like me ain't going to make it, huh? If we're so wrong, how come you worship one of us. Jesus wasn't a Christian. He was a Jew - a practising Jew. The Last Supper was a Sedar.

excon

You are correct, it was a Sedar.

I assume you read the Torah?

But I also assume you have not done much study of the New Testament? I would not expect the average Jew to do so.

John 5:39
39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
(KJV)
Here we have the words of Jesus telling us that the Torah points to Him. There are many things in the OT that are types of Christ. (Eg. The brass serpent put up by Moses)

Back to the Sedar:

Matt 26:26-28
26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.
27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;
28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
(KJV)

For the first time ever, the meaning of this meal was revealed.

I do not claim to understand exactly how the Sedar is done, but Jesus revealed what the elements represented, to wit, His Body and His Blood.

Maybe there is a Rabbi out there who can further enlighten us on this subject.

Ex, I hope you will consider this as from a friend rather than as an adversary. (As I usually am.)

arcura · Jul 13, 2009, 10:19 PM

Gaverton,
Through the last supper (Seder) of Jesus he became the sacrificial Lamb of God.
Thus He brought the Passover of death to all believers.
He institutes the New Covenant of the Passover from the old.
It is often referred to as the Christian Passover.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

arcura · Jul 13, 2009, 10:20 PM

Gaverton,
Through the last supper (Seder) of Jesus he became the sacrificial Lamb of God.
Thus He brought the Passover of death to all believers.
He institutes the New Covenant of the Passover from the old.
It is often referred to as the Christian Passover.

Peace and kindness,

Fred

adam7gur · Jul 13, 2009, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tj3

In John 10:34 the people that he was referring to were unsaved (John 10:26), and were unjust judges because His references to Psalm 82. He was therefore speaking judgment against those who tried to elevate themselves to be gods, and who felt themselves worthy to judge Him.

Not accurate!

N0help4u · Jul 13, 2009, 11:34 PM

...and what is your explanation?

arcura · Jul 13, 2009, 11:52 PM

Adam7gur,
I'm going to be gone for a few days.
Keep up the good work.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

adam7gur · Jul 14, 2009, 01:12 AM

Nohelp4u
Scripture goes like that..
John 10:33 The Jews answered him: For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy, and because thou, being man, makest thyself God.
(They accused Him that being a man He made Himself equal to God)
34 Jesus answered them: Is it not written in your law, I said: You are gods?
(Who is God calling gods?)
35 If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came, and the Scripture cannot be broken:
(and not whom God sanctified because Jesus seperates those two possibilities by saying)...
36 of him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, say you: Thou blasphemest; because I said: I am the Son of God?
Tom said that those people tried to elevate themselves to be gods but this is not accurate because those people accused Jesus of doing so, as a blasphemer and therefore wanted to kill Him because that was the punishment of a blasphemer.It is not logicall then for them to elevate themselves to gods while knowing that this would make them blasphemers!

N0help4u · Jul 14, 2009, 04:45 AM

I think original posters do intend to be asking for a Christian Biblical answer but then people want to give their point of view and it turns into debate.
I don't see why they don't take debates and start them on the members discussion boards rather than arguing on the OP. Many of them go so way off topic to boot.
It happens on the relationship boards as well.

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