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I was on a thread last nite that I was accused of hijacking...I apologize to anyone who thought so. ANYWAY, I was speaking to people who call themselves Christians and realized I wasn't even on the same page as they were. I do NOT believe that all paths lead to God and I do NOT believe that God placed his spirit in each of us. I do NOT believe that he has written his spirit on our hearts.(.i dunno what that even means? ) I can't find any scripture to even suggests such a thing. I believe the Holy Spirit indwells each believer in Jesus Christ. I don't go by what I feel, I only go by what the word of God says. We got on the subject because someone was on the Christian board looking for God and questioned what he had been taught .
I was surprised to see that someone who calls themself a Christian, advised the OP to read read read all different types of material from Hindu's, Muslims, wiccan...whatever! This was weird to me. When You have truly found the Living God through Jesus Christ our Lord....aren't you suppose to lead them to him through HIS word? In other words........ This is Jesus Christ speaking....
I am the way
I am the truth
I am the LIFE
No one comes to the Father BUT by ME! John 14:6
That is the only Christianity I KNOW. Help me out. Do you as a Christian believe other paths..(other than the Finished work of Christ)..leads to the Father?
First, how many kinds of Christians do you think there are? You either are one or you are not.
Oh. I've gotten the impression that there is a pecking order. I've been told more than once by fundies here that I am not a Christian. (I use the term "fundies" with much love, since I was born into and grew up in that world.)
First, how many kinds of Christians do you think there are? You either are one or you are not.
Secondly, Jesus is completely exclusive. Yes only those who accept Jesus as Lord and Savior will be in Heaven
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I dont believe I will absolutely not be in heaven unless I accept Jesus. I could be destined for hell for that matter, who knows.
I was going to give you a reddie for your post, galveston, but it would have been going against forum basics if I did. As a matter of fact, you should read forum basics before you hand out reddies. You dont do it right. you cant fault someone for their own opinions and thats the reddie you gave me, voicing my own opinion.
Knowing what I do about Jesus who walked on this earth, reading about him, not in scripture, but as a real person, quite possibly a good man, doing good deeds, loving people, fighting for his truth, why would he not want all good people to be in heaven with him, christian or not ? If he will only accept christians then that is going against everything I have heard of him.
All versions of the bible were written long after Jesus passed, and for that matter, all disciples.
The bible, in any version has proven to be an exemplary source of archeological information and that is the only credence I will give it.
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Altenweg agrees: Same here Tickle. galveston disagrees: You completely ignore the abundance of fulfilled prophecy.
Unknown008 agrees: Balancer, I have to agree
Do you as a Christian believe other paths..(other than the Finished work of Christ)..leads to the Father?
No way no how!
2 John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed KJV
Phl 2:10-11 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Altenweg agrees: Same here Tickle. galveston disagrees: You completely ignore the abundance of fulfilled prophecy.
Unknown008 agrees: Balancer, I have to agree
I guess I am not alone in my opinion, galveston.
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I ask you to prove this several pages back. So far you have ignored me. Why is that? Is it because you have no proof of this? Or are you simply ignoring me? My bible gives the accepted dates for each book contained therein. How about yours?
Soooo... then God removed the freewill of Man long enough to preserve the Bible... and then put it back?
I don't know how you came to that conclusion. If I wrote a book, and preserves the copyright and the original manuscript, that would not mean that I would be removing freewill from the whole world, so I am not sure how you extrapolated that to be the case with the Bible.
Why is it such a problem that it should have been so perfectly preserved?
If the evidence showed that it wasn't, then you would say - see it was corrupted, but since we have evidence that it was perfectly preserved, you are trying to argue that to be a problem. Seems to me that you just don't like the Bible - PERIOD.
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It sounds to me that you enjoy making inaccurate claims of historical evidence. My favorite part is when you said "evidence going back thousands of years". Especially when some of the books of the Bible were written less than 2,000 years ago.
I understand your passion but you allow your emotions to get in the way of intelligent conversation.
Ah, now the ad hominem arguments.
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GOD did not contradict Himself. Man contradicted God.
Agreed. That is why i stick to what the Bible itself says and do not treat book outside of the Bible as God inspired works.
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Here you go with these crazy generalizations again. "Completely in contradiction with all historical evidence".
Anyway. what "historical evidence" do you have that shows an earlier version of the Bible that was released to the public??
Altenweg agrees: Same here Tickle. galveston disagrees: You completely ignore the abundance of fulfilled prophecy.
Unknown008 agrees: Balancer, I have to agree
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