Did Jesus leave us Tradition or Scripture?

John 6 55 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day.

Matthew 28 19 Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

1 Cor 11 23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus, the same night in which he was betrayed, took bread. 24 And giving thanks, broke, and said: Take ye, and eat: this is my body, which shall be delivered for you: this do for the commemoration of me. 25 In like manner also the chalice, after he had supped, saying: This chalice is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as often as you shall drink, for the commemoration of me.

I'm not aware that Jesus wrote a Scripture or commanded anyone to write a Scripture. But He established a Church and commanded the members of that Church to worship God and teach others how to worship God.

So, if you can provide the evidence that Jesus wrote a Scripture, please show me.

Sincerely,

De Maria

wildandblue

No He did not, in fact in most of the parables and sayings of Jesus He was actually quoting from the Law and the prophets, the everyday folk in His day being so ignorant they didn't even know this. The Book of Sirach I think at one time excited people because the author is said to be Jesus but this is actually a different Jesus son of Eleazar, son of Sirach

Tj3

Scripture, and then he commanded that we not go beyond what is written.

Wow. How did you miss it? There are numerous examples of where God commanded that scripture be written, and here are a few:

Ex 34:27
27 Then the LORD said to Moses, "Write these words, for according to the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel."
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Rev 1:10-12
11 saying, "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last," and, "What you see, write in a book and send it to the seven churches which are in Asia: to Ephesus, to Smyrna, to Pergamos, to Thyatira, to Sardis, to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea."
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Jer 30:2
2 "Thus speaks the LORD God of Israel, saying: 'Write in a book for yourself all the words that I have spoken to you.
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Did God write anything Himself? Most assuredly:

Ex 34:1
34:1 And the LORD said to Moses, "Cut two tablets of stone like the first ones, and I will write on these tablets the words that were on the first tablets which you broke.
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Tj3

Sirach is not canonical and actually contradicts scripture.

De Maria

That is God speaking to Moses in the Old Testament.

Please show where Jesus commanded that the New Testament be written. The only thing I see is Jesus commanding the establishing of Traditions.

De Maria

Sirach was canonical long before Luther took it out. But the subject here is what did Jesus command? Did Jesus command Tradition or Scripture?

Tj3

Luther never took it out, but the fact that the Roman Church chose to add it at the Council or Trent in the 16th century does not remove the contradiction, or the fact that The Church never considered it canonical.

I answered that.

De Maria

No you didn't. You posted God speaking to Moses, not Jesus speaking to the Church.

Or are you saying that only the Old Testament is Scripture?

Tj3

Am I to understand from your comment that you reject the OT, or that you deny that Jesus is God?

I already did, but apparently you did not read all of my post.

As for Jesus supposedly establishing traditions, that is something that you have yet to validate.

wildandblue

My sources say, Sirach written approx 200 B.C. not included in the Hebrew Bible after the first century A.D., nor accepted by Protestants but always viewed as canonical by the Catholic Church and part of the liturgy
Also remember that the first century A.D. Church believed Christ's return to be imminent, many of the Gospels were written much later by the apostles when it was apparent that these men were going to die before Christ's return and wanted to pass along their special narratives and their witness to others