heres a question and i would like to get a christian (especially catholic) point of veiw on this.
what is your beleif about demons? do they exist and do they mess with us in a spiritua sense? can one really be posessed??
i have a friend who has a severe seizure disorder, and he is a devout christian. he is mentally sound and i trust him a lot. he claims that when he has a seizure, during the end of it in his hypnotic like state, he sees demons and angels as well. he says one demon in particular has a name he never heard before: "Abatu". he is terrified. he said the angels are almost as terrifying only in a different way. i have been there for some of his seizures and he is getting more scared with each one, scared of what he is seeing and scared of being alone in this. he says he trusts Jesus and asks me to start praying when he feels a seizure coming on, stating that this demon figure he sees hates the word of God and is deterred by it. he has warned me not to pursue this and not to research it, stating that it is very dangerous ground that i dont want to be poking around in. but of course, i am curious.
has anyone studies this subject, and what do you think of this??

rachie

yes, that is the main one

Fr_Chuck

Abatu - An earth bound form of destructive/negative energy in the Order of the Nine Angles. Associated with rites of sacrifice.

It is listed in the list of demons, it is considered one of the familar demons

rachie

fascinating Father....and rayne thank you for the scripture.
so u have really been to an exorsism? i cant imagine.
when u say demons lie and say they are a dead uncle, ect..is it your belief that all ghost "sightings" are something of this nature? so you believe in ghosts or are ghost really just demons posing as a dead loved one? i only ask because i am curious as to a catholics view.

Megg

I believe that yes they CAN act like a dead lover or mother or brother. Why? Because they are satans lap doggs...lol. They want to lie, steal your joy and love. They want to break you down to the lowest point. Is your friend a new christian? That may be it. Satan doesnt want you to go to heaven he will do anything in his power on earth to destroy you. So he may have sent a demon to destroy your friends christianity.

rachie

rayne i guess that makes sense doesnt it

Megg

Does that also mean you dont believe in spirits or demons attacking ppl? If so, im sorry but the bible is clear that demons are real and do harm. I've posted places the bible talks about demons on pg 2 i think.

rachie

father....one more thing....why are catholic preists the only ones who do exorsisms? if protestants think catholisism is wrong, then why is it they turn to preists to take care of these problems? i am not trying to be argumentative or start something, i am really asking. are catholics the only ones who acknowledge demons/ect?/

Fr_Chuck

I won't say 100 percent I don't believe in ghosts, I have as rayne mentioned the gift of decernment, and I can fell evil when I am near it, or feel the spirit over a room or area of town, Untill I learned more to control and turn it off and on better, it used to even make me physcially ill when I was in and around too much evil at a time.

But when in Atlanta, I lived in a haunted house, we had a shadow that passed by the front window almost every day, the smell of a pipe being lit in the old dinning room every few days, We could not use our motion detectors for our security system, something set them off every night.
And we actually saw objects fly ( not fall) but fly 1/2 way across the room, they almost always came off my desk , which was in the old dinning room, and once in a while off of the fire place mantel.
But there was never any feeling of evil in the house. And these things matched very well my wifes aunt and uncle (* who my wife and I actually looked alot alike)
Ghosts are not really a Christian or catholic view, but are actually mentioned in the office, when Christ was walking across the water toward the followers in the boat, they beleived him to be a "spririt" or ghost, so it appears the followers of Christ may have beleived in ghosts.

Megg

Its possible too, that he has a gift that god allowed him to have. God gives ppl many gifts. It's possible because he may have a calling on his life that satan wants to stop that. God calls ppl to do things sometimes. Your friend may be very special and choosen by god to do something great or it may just be he is in tune with the spiritual world. Either way satan wants to rob him of his calling and gifts and christianity.

rachie

that is my feeling on the subject. this fried is very meek, mild, a lot of health problems, but a joy to be around and touches many people. it would not at all suprise me.