why did Jesus cried out to the Lord on the cross when he knew very well that it had to happen in order that the Scripture could be fulfilled ?

giani513

God spared Abraham of sacrificing his son. Maybe Jesus thought they He too would be spared.

peters01alm

that 's possible , if your jesus was just another jewish preacher who did not descend onto this earth with a special divine mission - to save all humanity from eternal sin.

Fr_Chuck

Jesus was still human in earthly form. He was suffering from all the sin, every sin we have and every sin not even committed yet were all put upon him, The pain must have been unbearable. And in the end, we can try to over think and study things, the fact we should remember is that he did die and rise from the dead, and that it was that event that has saved us from our sins by our trust and faith in him. So often we have to remember the event, not worry about how it could have been or try to anything more than having faith in it.

peters01alm

Jesus was still human in earthly form.
He could still have looked , acted , behaved - did He marry anybody/anything ?- and of course died human to humans who witnessed it all. Some sources , the Bible in particular , teaches us that He did not have a human father. Furthermore , certain critics claim that Mary was and remained a VIRGIN after Jesus's birth

lobrobster

I thought Jesus was God?

Donna Mae

[quote= Furthermore , certain critics claim that Mary was and remained a VIRGIN after Jesus's birth[/QUOTE]

Mark 3:31-32
Then Jesus' mother and brothers arrived. Standing outside, they sent someone in to call Him. A crowd was sitting around him, and they told him, "Your mother and brothers are outside looking for you."

He also had sisters, I'll look for the scripture.

Donna Mae

Mark 6:1-3
Jesus left there and went to his hometown, accompanied by his disciples...Many who heard Him were amazed.

"Where did this man get these things?" they asked. "What's this wisdom that has been given Him, that he even does miracles! Isn't this the carpenter? Isn't this Mary's son and the brother of James, Joseph, Judas and Simon? Aren't his sisters here with us?" And they took offense at him.

savedsinner7

He cried out when God had removed His presence from Jesus and placed our sins full on Him.

Galveston1

[quote=Choux]The real person that the "Jesus Christ" of Paul and other religious revisionists was modeled after taught that the *Kingdom of Heaven* was on earth! He was a Jewish man, a teacher on spiritual matters TO JEWS. He did not want to start a new religion, Paul did!

I have seen this before, but is is simply not so.
1. Jesus did not say that the Kingdom of Heaven WAS on Earth. If so, why did He teach to pray for that Kingdom to come? That Kingdom will be on Earth when Jesus returns and rules as King.

Here is what He said:

Luke 17:20-21
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. (Not within the Pharisees, but within the believers.)
(KJV)

2. Paul did not start a new religion.

Gal 2:1-2
1 Then fourteen years after I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and took Titus with me also.
2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.
(KJV)

Gal 2:6-7
6 But of these who seemed to be somewhat, (whatsoever they were, it maketh no matter to me: God accepteth no man's person for they who seemed to be somewhat in conference added nothing to me:
7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
(KJV)

Paul had a conference with the Elders at Jeursalem to determine if he was preaching the same gospel that they were. He was!

Even the Apostle Peter recognized the writings of Paul as being "scripture".

2 Pet 3:15-16
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
(KJV)

Note the comparison that Peter makes between Paul's writings and "OTHER scriptkures.

It is absured to claim that Paul was a revisionist and detached from the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Now how did that smiley get in there?

Fr_Chuck

We do not know if he got married or not, there is no mention of him getting married, so it is doubtful, If he did, that would not change his purpose and message.

True he had no human father, we also do not know for sure if Mary and Josehp ever had sex after Jesus birth, one would assume ( guess ) that they did, as it does speak of Jesus brothers and sisters, ( some say this was Josephs childrn from an earlier marriage, but they are not mentioned in the early stories of jesus birth either.( But in the aspect of the bible, it does not matter if she did or if she did not, since it is not her but Jesus that the message is about