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Because he was human. It is not easy to die. He expressed himself as any human would. He also showed us the meaning of surrender when he said "into your hands I commend my spirit." So ultimately he understood that God's plan is the only plan that truely matters.
Yes Rusty answers well.
Also consider this peters01alm...Jesus said "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?" See God was with Jesus always during His time on earth. God had to turn away so that Jesus could die. Jesus felt that difference. God was with Him then He wasn't. It's a big difference, one in which Jesus had never felt before and so it is understandable that He felt that way and cried out. Who wouldn't?
The real person that the "Jesus Christ" of Paul and other religious revisionists was modeled after taught that the *Kingdom of Heaven* was on earth! He was a Jewish man, a teacher on spiritual matters TO JEWS. He did not want to start a new religion, Paul did!
His remarks on the cross are of the most poignant in human history.....
Because he was human. It is not easy to die. He expressed himself as any human would. He also showed us the meaning of surrender when he said "into your hands I commend my spirit." So ultimately he understood that God's plan is the only plan that truely matters.
lets break it down into 5 points
1. was Jesus really human in the many senses that we understand humanity today? Is he not a member of the Holy Trinity ? i mean the miraculous events associated with Him should not be only understood as mere symbolism but they could have actually happened in reality...i guess our Saviour had a divine Soul in a Human body.
2. it may be easy to die , it does not have to be a terrible experience.
3. Being the son of a virgin and bred by a carpenter he could have had an opportunity to " express" himself in remarkable human ways - He Himself was a carpenter until 3 years before His death.
4. surrender to whom God or the Roman soldiers ?
5. Jesus knew and understood God's plan even before His mother knew she was pregnant with the Son of God - HOLY TRINITY.
Yes Rusty answers well.
God was with Him then He wasn't. It's a big difference, one in which Jesus had never felt before and so it is understandable that He felt that way and cried out. Who wouldn't?
it is understandable that any normal human being would have felt the pain and asked for God's intervention. That God at any point / rate abondened His only begotten Son to the mercy of the Roman soldiers is a little tricky because He ( God ) and Jesus together planned the events of that day. in order that you and i could be saved from eternal sin. i think Jesus never really told anyone why He said those words. In fact anyone who thought and rightly believed that He was Joseph's son might have not understood the real meaning of the words.
O, now you've got me going (metaphysically speaking).
Jesus quoted prophetic scriptures that he believed he was fulfilling.
On the cross, his 'My God, My God, Why have you forsaken me' is direct
from Psalm 22. It was common practice to refer to the meaning of a
familiar passage of scripture by means of its first phrase.
In addition, the evidence is that he was reciting the whole Psalm,
perhaps as a kind of mantra to keep focussed on the Father despite
feeling separated. Matthew 27:45 indicates via 'darkness' the
commencement of the judgement/separation. Verse 46 is his loud (public)
utterance, the "My God!...". The next verses indicate a period of time
before his physical death. Verse 50 "Jesus cried out again with a loud
voice, and then yielded up his spirit".
I think that is amplified by John 19:28-30. Verse 30 "It is finished"
(tetelestai in greek, could also be interpreted in the middle voice
rather than the passive, "He has accomplished it Himself, fully") ...
which is quoting the final verse of Psalm 22: 31B. From verse 22
onward, that Psalm had switched from despair to faith, hope, and
victory.
A curious person might wonder why the full story is split between two
accounts, Matthew and John. A practical note is that John happened to
be the closest to Jesus at the cross (John19:26)... so that final
utterance, perhaps less distinct due to physical exhaustion, might have
been understood only to him.
Finally, back in Matthew27:51, we see the symbol of separation between
God and man being removed (the curtain in the temple barring entrance
to the Holy-of-Holies). This is the accomplishment of the sacrifice.
And next, resurrection of the dead. Clear enough symbologies.
There are numerous documented examples of humans who have died in what we would assume to be painful ways, yet because of their faith (or some other spiritual grace or ability of which we normals are ignorant) they have not suffered as we would.
I think it is safe to assume that Jesus would be chief amongst this category of saints.
Moreover, an orthodox interpretation assumes that the 'blood of Christ that
cleanses from all sin' was not his literal physical blood being
spilled... his throat was not slit like the old jewish animal
sacrifices, he did not bleed to death... by analogy, his death
sacrifice occured on the spiritual level. Blood is a symbol of
Life-Essence, and so his spiritual death on the cross is equivalent to
Separation-from-TheLifeSource, ie God-the-Father. (only a minority of
very literalminded fundamentalists think it is talking about physical
blood). My contemplations have been to attempt to understand something
more of the meaning/purpose of 'sacrifice' at that spiritual level.
OK, now 'he is finished' :-) . Thanks for your interest!
THOMAS
why did Jesus cried out to the Lord on the cross when he knew very well that it had to happen in order that the Scripture could be fulfilled ?
He was reminding the Jews of the prophecy that the Messiah must die:
Matthew 16 21 From that time Jesus began to shew to his disciples, that he must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the ancients and scribes and chief priests, and be put to death, and the third day rise again.
And He did so by quoting a famous Psalm:
Psalms 21 2 O God my God, look upon me: why hast thou forsaken me? Far from my salvation are the words of my sins.
Note how the Psalm goes on to describe Jesus' passion:
17 For many dogs have encompassed me: the council of the malignant hath besieged me. They have dug my hands and feet. 18 They have numbered all my bones. And they have looked and stared upon me. 19 They parted my garments amongst them; and upon my vesture they cast lots. 20 But thou, O Lord, remove not thy help to a distance from me; look towards my defence.
O, now you've got me going (metaphysically speaking).
Jesus quoted prophetic scriptures that he believed he was fulfilling.
On the cross, his 'My God, My God, Why have you forsaken me' is direct
from Psalm 22. It was common practice to refer to the meaning of a
familiar passage of scripture by means of its first phrase.
In addition, the evidence is that he was reciting the whole Psalm,
perhaps as a kind of mantra to keep focussed on the Father despite
feeling separated. Matthew 27:45 indicates via 'darkness' the
commencement of the judgement/separation. Verse 46 is his loud (public)
utterance, the "My God!...". The next verses indicate a period of time
before his physical death. Verse 50 "Jesus cried out again with a loud
voice, and then yielded up his spirit".
I think that is amplified by John 19:28-30. Verse 30 "It is finished"
(tetelestai in greek, could also be interpreted in the middle voice
rather than the passive, "He has accomplished it Himself, fully") ...
which is quoting the final verse of Psalm 22: 31B. From verse 22
onward, that Psalm had switched from despair to faith, hope, and
victory.
A curious person might wonder why the full story is split between two
accounts, Matthew and John. A practical note is that John happened to
be the closest to Jesus at the cross (John19:26)... so that final
utterance, perhaps less distinct due to physical exhaustion, might have
been understood only to him.
Finally, back in Matthew27:51, we see the symbol of separation between
God and man being removed (the curtain in the temple barring entrance
to the Holy-of-Holies). This is the accomplishment of the sacrifice.
And next, resurrection of the dead. Clear enough symbologies.
There are numerous documented examples of humans who have died in what we would assume to be painful ways, yet because of their faith (or some other spiritual grace or ability of which we normals are ignorant) they have not suffered as we would.
I think it is safe to assume that Jesus would be chief amongst this category of saints.
Moreover, an orthodox interpretation assumes that the 'blood of Christ that
cleanses from all sin' was not his literal physical blood being
spilled... his throat was not slit like the old jewish animal
sacrifices, he did not bleed to death... by analogy, his death
sacrifice occured on the spiritual level. Blood is a symbol of
Life-Essence, and so his spiritual death on the cross is equivalent to
Separation-from-TheLifeSource, ie God-the-Father. (only a minority of
very literalminded fundamentalists think it is talking about physical
blood). My contemplations have been to attempt to understand something
more of the meaning/purpose of 'sacrifice' at that spiritual level.
OK, now 'he is finished' :-) . Thanks for your interest!
THOMAS
Excellent! Is there a book to which you could refer me?
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