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A friend of mine committed suicide about a week ago, claiming he was a Christian. I grew up Southern Baptist and had always heard that the one thing that separates you from God is taking your own life, is this true?
So, you are basing your argument on the fact that suicide is NOT murder? Is that what I am hearing from you?
So how do you rectify the multiple times in the Bible that God/Jesus speaks about murder or murdering a person?
Such as EX20:13, MT5;:21,MT 23;31, RO 1;29, NU 35:30, JN 8:44, AC28:4, or 1JN3:15.
You first have to reconcile in your mind whether suicide is considered murder. In my book it is. So I have a completely different prospective on the subject.
There then is the whole debate of defiling your body which no one has broached yet. Could suicide be considered defilement of your body?
See, there is no black or white on this subject, and no one will have a true answer until the day we stand before our Lord and God to answer for your works/deeds. But personally I would not want to take the chance, do you?
There is NO sin that is not covered under the blood of Jesus Christ. It IS murder....and it is forgiveable. I don't understand why we put so many conditions on salvation.
People claim that when you kill yourself that you can't go back and repent and if you don't ask for forgiveness for every sin then God can't accept you.
Which I can and can't see, because you are either saved or you aren't
There is NO sin that is not covered under the blood of Jesus Christ. It IS murder....and it is forgiveable. I don't understand why we put so many conditions on salvation.
That is true. However how can you ask/seek forgiveness if you are dead? See, this whole debate boils down the which comes first, the chicken or the egg?
My sins are covered, past, present, future. I ask for forgivness because when I don't my relationship with the Lord Jesus suffers NOT my salvation. If me asking for forgivness every time I sinned was a requirement I can tell you right here and now...i have failed..i WILL fail. Heck sometimes I don't even recognize some of the things I do as sin until the Holy Spirit enlightens me.
My sins are covered, past, present, future. I ask for forgivness because when I don't my relationship with the Lord Jesus suffers NOT my salvation. If me asking for forgivness every time I sinned was a requirement I can tell you right here and now...i have failed..i WILL fail. Heck sometimes I don't even recognize some of the things I do as sin until the Holy Spirit enlightens me.
Accidentally sinning is not the same as making the choice to take your own life. In doing so, you are putting yourself in God's place by deciding who lives and who dies.
Accidentally sinning is not the same as making the choice to take your own life. In doing so, you are putting yourself in God's place by deciding who lives and who dies.
I disagree with you. Sin is sin. My relationship with the Lord suffers when I refuse to confess my sins but they are ALL covered under the blood confessed and unconfessed. Believe me...i am sure I have unconfessed sin that i committed WILLINGLY in my life. I don't want there to be but I am a fallen creature. We could get in long debates about someone comitting a terrible sin on purpose and then dying in a car crash with no time to repent or confess...they go to hell? Please . Salvation is by faith alone.....I don't do anything to earn it...i can't do anything to keep it...it is a gift.
Suicide is a horrible horrible thing. It is a devastating terrible act...but the Lord Jesus forgives everything when we are IN CHRIST, Christ is IN us and we have the Holy Spirit indwelling us. We are sealed with his spirit and ain't nothin or nobody gonna take that away!!!!
incidently consider the man in 1 corithians 5....he was living with his stepmother as his wife ( yuck, puke..disgusting). Notice that Paul considers him SAVED. He wasn't confessing anything....HE eventually did but he wasn't not saved because he chose to live in a sinful lifestyle...he was excomunicated until he got his life back on track...
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