Catholic Church And Eating Meat On Friday

Cannon Law 1251 has never been appealed, it is from the Episcopal Conference that abstinence from meat or from some other food as determined by the Episcopal Conference is to be observed on all Fridays unless a solemnity should fall on a Friday. Abstinence and fasting are to be obsrved on ash Wednesday and Good Friday.

It was qualified by Cannon 1253 that if you do not refrain from eating meat on Friday you are required to do some act of penance. The idea that it was part of the "divine deposit of all faith, and thus a mortal sin from my reading is not the case, but it is merely one of the church rules that require pentence if violated.

Cannon 1253 is being debated ( more or less) as to allowing the act of penance instead of fasting.

Athos

Do you really think that if you eat meat or don't eat meat on a certain day it is going to determine if God loves or condemns you?
I think God is more concerned with deeper matters of the heart.

"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth."
1 Timothy 4:1-3, KJV

Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you for the prize. Such a person goes into great detail about what he has seen, and his unspiritual mind puffs him up with idle notions. He has lost connection with the Head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.
Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules: "Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!"? These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.
Col 2:16-23

"And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air,
Upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. But flesh with the life
Thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat."
Genesis 9:2-4, KJV

Genesis 3 3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of paradise, God hath commanded us that we should not eat; and that we should not touch it, lest perhaps we die.

Adam and Eve disobeyed a dietary law and did not die physically. Does that mean that God lied? No. It means they died spiritually.

Does that means that God loves or condemns them? No, by their disobedience they condemned themselves.

Sincerely,

De Maria

Yes so I would not disobey the Bible when it says

"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth."
1 Timothy 4:1-3, KJV

Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you for the prize. Such a person goes into great detail about what he has seen, and his unspiritual mind puffs him up with idle notions. He has lost connection with the Head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.
Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules: "Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!"? These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.
Col 2:16-23

"And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air,
Upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. But flesh with the life
Thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat."
Genesis 9:2-4, KJV

I see NO where in the Bible that it says to abstain from eating meat one day a week.

But the Bible does say that God has given authority to the Church and that we should obey our leaders in the Church:

Hebrews 13 7 Remember your prelates who have spoken the word of God to you; whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation,

Hebrews 13 17 Obey your prelates, and be subject to them. For they watch as being to render an account of your souls; that they may do this with joy, and not with grief. For this is not expedient for you.

Therefore, if the Church tells us to abstain from eating meat on Fridays, we do so.

Sincerely,

De Maria

God gave the authority to the church
So the church has the authority to change the Bible where it says
Beware of false teachings in the latter times that forbid certain things and say to abstain from eating meats.
Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules: "Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!"? These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.

I guess that is more verses of the Bible that the Church contradicts so I should throw them away too?

My point of disagreement is that I don't believe for a minute that the RCC is the CHURCH. The Church has no denominational name, no organizational head, (only Jesus Christ) and cannot be joined, but is entered ONLY by spiritual birth by believing on Jesus Christ as the only begotten Son of God, repentance from dead works, and by faith in the accomplished work of Christ.
All these rituals are nonsense. Jesus left only 2 ordinances, The Lord's Supper, and water baptism.

The Catholic Church has never changed the Bible.

Last I saw, that teaching is still in the Bible.
1 Timothy 4 1 Now the Spirit manifestly saith, that in the last times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to spirits of error, and doctrines of devils, 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy, and having their conscience seared, 3 Forbidding to marry, to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving by the faithful, and by them that have known the truth.

Yeah. There it is.

That isn't what the Church teaches. Are you upset because we believe and obey the words of Jesus Christ:
Matthew 9 15 And Jesus said to them: Can the children of the bridegroom mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then they shall fast.

We fast and abstain from certain foods today, because Jesus said that we would. We observe all of Scripture.

Really? Then I wonder why St. Paul did it:
1 Corinthians 9 27 But I chastise my body, and bring it into subjection: lest perhaps, when I have preached to others, I myself should become a castaway.

The Church throws none of the verses of the Bible away. She accepts them all. That is what you are objecting to. You are objecting to our keeping verses of the Bible which you despise.

Sincerely,

De Maria

That is your right. I believe the Catholic Church is the CHURCH which Jesus built.

Jesus seemed to think that He left an identifiable organization:

Matthew 18 17 And if he will not hear them: tell the church. And if he will not hear the church, let him be to thee as the heathen and publican.

All these rituals are nonsense. Jesus left only 2 ordinances, The Lord's Supper, and water baptism.[/quote]

What about these:
Matthew 28 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.

John 20 23 Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.

Matt 25 35 For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in:

36 Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. 37 Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, and fed thee; thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 And when did we see thee a stranger, and took thee in? Or naked, and covered thee? 39 Or when did we see thee sick or in prison, and came to thee? 40 And the king answering, shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me.

John 14 15 If you love me, keep my commandments.

Sincerely,

De Maria

From what I understand in the Catholic Church we practice that only during the " Lent Season ". From the time I receive my Ashes on ash wednesday, no meat is to be eaten on fridays till after Easter is over.