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Reading through many of the prior responses leads me to believe there are many who misunderstand the concept of Original Sin…Sin occurred first in the spirit realm before its introduction on earth. For unknown ages full harmony with God prevailed in the universe. Disruption came through a spirit creature referred to simply as the Resister, Adversary (Heb., Sa•tan´; Gr., Sa•ta•nas´; Job 1:6; Ro 16:20), the principal False Accuser or Slanderer (Gr., Di•a´bo•los) of God. (Heb 2:14; Re 12:9) Hence, the apostle John says: “He who carries on sin originates with the Devil, because the Devil has been sinning from the beginning.”—1Jo 3:8.
As we know from reading Gods word the Bible Satan lied and tempted the free will God bestowed on Adam and Eve and they sinned…which means, Everlasting life for Adam, Eve and their descendents was revoked and death (Sin in this particular sense) was the wages of that sin. Death with old age and all that accompanies it was passed on to mankind.
Reading through many of the prior responses leads me to believe there are many who misunderstand the concept of Original Sin…Sin occurred first in the spirit realm before its introduction on earth. For unknown ages full harmony with God prevailed in the universe. Disruption came through a spirit creature referred to simply as the Resister, Adversary (Heb., Sa•tan´; Gr., Sa•ta•nas´; Job 1:6; Ro 16:20), the principal False Accuser or Slanderer (Gr., Di•a´bo•los) of God. (Heb 2:14; Re 12:9) Hence, the apostle John says: “He who carries on sin originates with the Devil, because the Devil has been sinning from the beginning.”—1Jo 3:8.
As we know from reading Gods word the Bible Satan lied and tempted the free will God bestowed on Adam and Eve and they sinned…which means, Everlasting life for Adam, Eve and their descendents was revoked and death (Sin in this particular sense) was the wages of that sin. Death with old age and all that accompanies it was passed on to mankind.
First, I thought satan was once in the the good graces of God? Also, exactly what was it about the temptation of eating an apple that was so sinful? Why couldn't God have waited at least until a murder took place?
The common tradition as to the apple’s being the forbidden fruit of Eden is without any Scriptural basis whatsoever.
Angels as well as Humans were given the gift of free-will; some people simply choose bad behavior over good.
Reading through many of the prior responses leads me to believe there are many who misunderstand the concept of Original Sin…Sin occurred first in the spirit realm before its introduction on earth. For unknown ages full harmony with God prevailed in the universe. Disruption came through a spirit creature referred to simply as the Resister, Adversary (Heb., Sa•tan´; Gr., Sa•ta•nas´; Job 1:6; Ro 16:20), the principal False Accuser or Slanderer (Gr., Di•a´bo•los) of God. (Heb 2:14; Re 12:9) Hence, the apostle John says: “He who carries on sin originates with the Devil, because the Devil has been sinning from the beginning.”—1Jo 3:8.
As we know from reading Gods word the Bible Satan lied and tempted the free will God bestowed on Adam and Eve and they sinned…which means, Everlasting life for Adam, Eve and their descendents was revoked and death (Sin in this particular sense) was the wages of that sin. Death with old age and all that accompanies it was passed on to mankind.
That is exactly how I understand it.
Satan wasnt an angel either.
Children are born innocent and if they die in infancy they are in Heaven no matter who their parents were.
Sin entered the world through one man, Adam, and death through sin. But through God's grace the gift of Jesus Christ, our sins can be washed away.
Ezekiel 18:20 Tells us the son will not share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son.
Matthew 18:1-7
The disciples came to Jesus and asked, "Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?" He called a little child and had him stand among them. And He said, "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven."
"And whoever welcomes a little child like this in my name welcomes me. But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea."
"Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to sin! Such things must come, but woe to the man through whom they come!"
James 1:13-18
When tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting me." For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He tempt anyone; but each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed. Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown gives birth to death.
(When we let desires take over our lives, that's when sin is conceived, not in the womb or in heaven. Every good thing is from God, sin is from man.)
He chose to give us birth through the 'word of truth', that we might be a kind of firstfruits of all He created. We are the firstfruits, the very best of His creation. I can't believe that birth through the 'word of truth' could have sin.
Therefore I also could never believe that a baby or child would go to hell if they died. Their angel is always looking at God.
"This child is greatest in th kingdom of heaven."
lobrobster--Sorry to hear that you have never read the Bible. That's the only way to find the answers to the questions we have about God and life after our time on this earth is over. Please don't depend on anyone to tell you what you need to believe, that includes me also (we all need help understanding God's word, but we need to read it ourselves too).
There are too many different beliefs in this world, but there is only one God and one way to learn the truth. Read and study God's word.
You asked about Bibles. My favorite Bible is the King James Version, but for studying I also use the New International Version. The problem with the NIV is that they leave out some scriptures, but the one I have includes these omitted scriptures in footnotes.
talaniman--
I hope you don't believe that I am cursing anyone, because that is definitely not my intention. God says to teach humbly and with kindness. So if I have offended anyone, I am sorry.
I do believe that my job for God is to inform anyone I can, about our loving Savior, and hopefully thats all I am doing. I can only inform, God makes the increase.
I agree with you Donna Mae. I don't believe anyone is born with sins of anyone else. But because of the sin of Adam and Eve I believe we are born with a sinful nature. But I believe that an infant, child or mentally handicapped person still needs saving grace. They obviously don't have the ability to not only know they must except Jesus as their savior, but they don't understand it/comprehend it either. That being said though...I still believe it is by God's grace that they go to heaven. Meaning they need grace like the rest of us.
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As far as the tree of knowledge of good and evil goes...I can't stress enough for people to stop putting so much emphasis on the actual tree. People think of the sin as simply eating from the tree, "why is eating from a tree so bad, why would eating from a tree be a sin?" This is putting entirely too much emphasis on the tree.
The sin was disobeying God by means of eating from the tree.
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