Ban on God's name!

Moparbyfar · Aug 27, 2008, 05:08 AM

Is it really true that the Catholic churches are now being instructed to ommit the divine name from all forms of service? If so, why? Does this also mean that any glass mossaics etc featuring YAHWEH will be replaced? Call me curious...

TRUTH_PREACHER · Nov 4, 2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Moparbyfar

Excuse me but since when was I making hate comments???? I was asking a fair question - or so I thought. I don't personally know any Catholic bigwigs so I thought I would bring my question to a place where I know there are some who know a lot about Catholic teachings. All you need to do is say true or false! Obviously it's false so thankyou. I don't take fw'd emails as hearsay but I did find something on the net about it so thought I'd enquire a bit further....ok? Peace man!

BTW it is evident that Jesus did use God's name openly, just one example Luke 4:16-21. If he made God's name known to men then he would have not have expected it to be excluded from writings, or would he?
In the mid-20th century some old fragments of the Greek Septuagint existing in Jesus day were discovered containing the divine name, written in Hebrew form. This tells me that the first century christians were quite comfortable using God's name.

Actually Mopar, what you heard is true. I searched for the info and found this: CNS STORY: No 'Yahweh' in songs, prayers at Catholic Masses, Vatican rules

JoeT777 · Nov 5, 2009, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TRUTH_PREACHER

Actually Mopar, what you heard is true. I searched for the info and found this: CNS STORY: No 'Yahweh' in songs, prayers at Catholic Masses, Vatican rules

Which means what to you?

arcura · Nov 9, 2009, 04:13 PM

I find that hard to accept.
The bible even instructs priest to "bless the people in My Name"
As far as I can tell very early Christians used God's name.
When I pray I sometimes use God's name when calling upon Him.
If God did not want us to use His Name why did He provide it for us and tell us to use it?
This is a very mysterious ruling for me.
I find it troubling.
Fred

JoeT777 · Nov 10, 2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by arcura

I find that hard to accept.
The bible even instructs priest to "bless the people in My Name"
As far as I can tell very early Christians used God's name.
When I pray I sometimes use God's name when calling upon Him.
If God did not want us to use His Name why did He provide it for us and tell us to use it?
This is a very mysterious ruling for me.
I find it troubling.
Fred

Fred:

Well it is true. But, it’s a lot less than most non-Catholics would make of it.
The Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments issued a letter on June 29, 2008 in which it stated that certain rules should be followed with regard to the use of the tetragrammaton (YHWH)

In the light of what has been expounded, the following directives are to be observed:

1) In liturgical celebrations, in songs and prayers the name of God in the form of the tetragrammaton YHWH is neither to be used or pronounced.
2) For the translation of the Biblical text in modern languages, destined for the liturgical usage of the Church, what is already prescribed by n. 41 of the Instruction Uturgiam authenticam is to be followed; that is, the divine tetragrammaton is to be rendered by the equivalent of AdonatI Kyrios. "Lord", "Signore", "Seigneur", "Herr", "Señor", etc.
3) In translating, in the liturgical context, texts in which are present, one after the other, either the Hebrew term Adonai or the tetragrammaton YHWH, Adonai is to be translated "Lord" and the form "God" is to be used for the tetragrammaton YHWH, similar to what happens in the Greek translation of the Septuaglnt and in the Latin translation of the Vulgate. Volume XLIV August 2008

If you’ll notice the directive is very limited and only affects current missal translations and some liturgical music. So, where's the big deal? Not only that but it's nearly two years old!

JoeT

arcura · Nov 10, 2009, 10:10 PM

JoeT,
Good Point!
Thanks,
Fred



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