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Old Dec 29, 2007, 12:02 PM
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Adam and Eve

I truly believe that Adam and Eve didn't physically pick an apple off a tree and eat it, it's symbolic. And, what really happend was the serpent beguiled them into sex and so then they figured out they were naked. Am I the only one? I have a hard time finding people who were taught this way,too.

 
     

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Old Jan 1, 2008, 05:13 AM   #41  
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I always hear atheists say that bananas, monkeys, humans and dirt all share the same dna to try and prove that man evolved from amoebas to monkeys to humans or whatever it is they believe.
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Well, see, until you take the time and make the effort to understand what it is that they actually do believe, you won't be very convincing in trying to refute it. Not all atheists are scientists, and not all scientists are atheists, so generalizations are dangerous.
 
 
     
 
 
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Isn't dirt formed by the decay of living organisms? It's called decomposition or some would say composting.... No, not all dirt forms that way, but mix it up a bit and its not hard to understand that dirt does have the potential to contain the DNA in cells... That logic doesn't really prove much. If you look for the building blocks of DNA in soil, want to wager as to what you will find?
Well, as a scientific term, I'm not sure "dirt" has a precise definition, but I guess in the context of this discussion, I'd say it is the non-living part of soil. SOIL is a mixture of the products of weathering stone and decaying life forms, mainly plants. DNA is a complex molecule found within living organisms that fragments and disintegrates relatively quickly (geologically speaking) after life of the organism ends. Still, a healthy soil is also home to an astounding variety of life-forms, so I'm sure it would be hard to draw a precise line between the living (DNA-containing) and the non-living components of it.

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All of the various versions of religious texts seem to have been "given" to some man to share with the rest of the world. If someone today were to write such a book and tell the world it was all based on things that God told them, how many believers would there be?

More than you might think, actually. It's been less than 200 years since Joseph Smith got his revelation, and worldwide membership in the church he founded is now close to 13 million. LDS Newsroom - Statistical Information. The Urantia Book has only been around since the fifties, but more than half a million copies in seven languages have been sold.

My impression is that revelations of this sort are coming thick and fast, and there seems to be a market for them. Yes, it's a niche market, but it's big enough to be economically viable, and information technology is continually bringing down the cost of publication and thus threshold of viability. With the internet, print-on-demand, etc., the start-up costs of prophet-hood are falling fast, so we can probably expect lots of new suppliers to enter the market.
 
 
     
 
 
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Joseph Smith was one of the people I was thinking of as I wrote that post. I lived very near to Kirtland, Ohio for over 10 years which is where Joseph Smith was before the group went west...


How does this sound for a first verse? In the beginning appeared a great light, and that light was Zigbot.
 
 
     
 
 
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I also had thought of Joseph Smith. I grew up near Palmyra NY where he found the golden plates.
 
 
     
 
 
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As far as I know, those golden plates are missing or something right?? Has anyone else ever seen them? Maybe I'll have to post it in the treasure hunting thread??????
 
 
     
 
 
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I have the plates in my home safe.
 
 
     
 
 
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Right next to the Holy Grail?? Heck, might as well throw in the golden goblet.
 
 
     
 
 
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Not the Holy Grail. It fell down into a crack in the earth and is gone forever. And I haven't found the Ark yet in that huge warehouse.

I do have the two stones that contain the Ten Commandments. They were too big for my safe, so we set them up in the butterfly garden next to the sundial and the gnome in the back yard.
 
 
     
 
 
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And here I was just planning an expedition to go and get those stones for my patio. Oh well, I'll just use some gopher wood (when I locate Noah's yaght) to build a deck instead.

When you find that warehouse, let me know, I think they might have a couple of old rugged crosses lying around...somewhere near Peter's sword.
 
 
     
 
 
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In fact I fully believe that they had children prior to being sent out of the garden but it was not mentioned since it had no effect on the story of creation and the sin of mankind. My reason for that was part of the punishment was for eve to have pain in child birth, not much of a punishment if she had not known no pain in child birth before.

That's an interesting idea I've never heard before. My sister had 6 children and she said none of them hurt when she gave birth. I guess God decided not to punish her for Adam and Eve's sin? (She's had a hard life anyway.)

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Tertullian agrees: Your sister is not the only one...I come from a huge family where painless childbirth is ALMOST the norm!
 
 
     


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