Adam and Eve

lisalisa123 · Dec 29, 2007, 12:02 PM

I truly believe that Adam and Eve didn't physically pick an apple off a tree and eat it, it's symbolic. And, what really happend was the serpent beguiled them into sex and so then they figured out they were naked. Am I the only one? I have a hard time finding people who were taught this way,too.

N0help4u · Dec 31, 2007, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by desidario

If one is to find any 'moral' in the Adam and Eve fable, it cannot be taken literally, for it is totally contrary to reason on a number of levels. Basically it follows the same pattern of dozens of Creation myths that preceeded it, all of which claim a god or goddess who creates man/mankind out of dirt, dust, mud, clay, spit, or blood....most closely the Egyptian myth of the god Khnum creating man out of clay on a potter's wheel...a myth that would have been very familiar to the Old Testament writers. The entire purpose of the Adam and Eve fable was to point up the 'punishments' awaiting those who disobeyed the commands of Yahweh. It doesn't get more complicated than that.

Are you saying myth to everything but the punishments or do you say punishment is a myth too?
Why do you claim mankind out of dirt is a myth when science has proven humans are made out of the same DNA as dirt?

Wondergirl · Dec 31, 2007, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by desidario

If one is to find any 'moral' in the Adam and Eve fable, it cannot be taken literally

One does not have to take the Adam and Eve story literally in order to find a moral. Aesop's Fables offer real-life morals that you can take to the bank.

N0help4u · Dec 31, 2007, 01:10 PM

have to spread the rep
yeah either way true or symbolic the message is the same. Man messed up went against God......

Wondergirl · Dec 31, 2007, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by waterlilly

There is nothing symbolic it is literal because God intended adam and eve to have sex because he comanded them to be fruitful and multiply on the earth and the way to to that is by procreating.

I think you missed the point of the discussion. There is no contention about being fruitful and procreation.

N0help4u · Dec 31, 2007, 02:04 PM

Point being the fruit and the serpent literal or figurative....
procreation being literal is a given

savedsinner7 · Dec 31, 2007, 02:44 PM

I think it could be both literal and symbolic. I believe Adam and Eve went against God's commands, and I think that the LORD uses symbolism in the Bible.

Wondergirl · Dec 31, 2007, 02:46 PM

The Bible is rife with symbolism -- e.g., "the hills clapped their hands" and "the four corners of the earth".

ordinaryguy · Dec 31, 2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by N0help4u

science has proven humans are made out of the same DNA as dirt?

I don't know much about Adam and Eve, but I do know that dirt isn't made out of DNA.

N0help4u · Dec 31, 2007, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ordinaryguy

I don't know much about Adam and Eve, but I do know that dirt isn't made out of DNA.

I always hear atheists say that bananas, monkeys, humans and dirt all share the same dna to try and prove that man evolved from amoebas to monkeys to humans or whatever it is they believe.
???

oneguyinohio · Dec 31, 2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ordinaryguy

I don't know much about Adam and Eve, but I do know that dirt isn't made out of DNA.

Isn't dirt formed by the decay of living organisms? It's called decomposition or some would say composting.... No, not all dirt forms that way, but mix it up a bit and its not hard to understand that dirt does have the potential to contain the DNA in cells... That logic doesn't really prove much. If you look for the building blocks of DNA in soil, want to wager as to what you will find?

On the other hand,

"There is nothing symbolic it is literal" seems opinionated. All of the various versions of religious texts seem to have been "given" to some man to share with the rest of the world. If someone today were to write such a book and tell the world it was all based on things that God told them, how many believers would there be?

Oh, lets not forget that the book should say that awful things will happen to those who don't believe, and that it will be acceptable to do awful things to others who dont believe the same way.



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