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I truly believe that Adam and Eve didn't physically pick an apple off a tree and eat it, it's symbolic. And, what really happend was the serpent beguiled them into sex and so then they figured out they were naked. Am I the only one? I have a hard time finding people who were taught this way,too.
This is in response to Wondergirl's "filling in the blanks" as ScottGem puts it. Wondergirl, you say that Protestantism teaches that Genesis 3:15 is the first mention of the Savior. I am Lutheran, one branch of Protestantism, and have never been taught that. Like ScottGem, I see nothing about the Savior in that first. Of course there are hints of the Savior in the OT but I also don't find them in that verse. Maybe you can tell us specifically which branch of Protestantism you are referring to, as there are many.
It actually is in symbolism between Adam and Christ, but you are correct it is not used in all branches of Christianity. And as you say Lutheran, there are seveal types of Lutherans from Mo Synd, WI Wynd, American Luterhan and a dozen more. Each one has very specific teachings.
And sadly I know in the Mo Synd, most of its members know little about alot of its real teachings sadly. So much of Luthers teaching are never talked about much.
This is in response to Wondergirl's "filling in the blanks" as ScottGem puts it. Wondergirl, you say that Protestantism teaches that Genesis 3:15 is the first mention of the Savior. I am Lutheran, one branch of Protestantism, and have never been taught that. Like ScottGem, I see nothing about the Savior in that first. Of course there are hints of the Savior in the OT but I also don't find them in that verse. Maybe you can tell us specifically which branch of Protestantism you are referring to, as there are many.
I was born Lutheran, my father was a Lutheran minister, I attended a Lutheran college and took a number of doctrine courses, and have always been taught that Gen. 3:15 means exactly that, no matter which congregation I belonged to and who was the minister. Please check with your pastor.
It actually is in symbolism between Adam and Christ, but you are correct it is not used in all branches of Christianity. And as you say Lutheran, there are seveal types of Lutherans from Mo Synd, WI Wynd, American Luterhan and a dozen more. Each one has very specific teachings.
And sadly I know in the Mo Synd, most of its members know little about alot of its real teachings sadly. So much of Luthers teaching are never talked about much.
If you call pastors who are in each synod, I'm betting you will find out they agree about Gen. 3:15.
Why on earth do you say Luther's teachings are never talked about much? His disagreement with the Catholic Church is the foundation of the Reformation and the basis of what you believe if you are Protestant.
this is grate! the fact is every religion ties into adam and eve. because it is fact. We have people that read the bible and love God. We each see the meseg that God wants us to see at the level of understanding at wich we are. I read a story from the bible to my dauter(6) and she sees what is at her level of understanding when i look at the same storry i may see some thing different. But it is beautiful to see God true the eyes of a child. Some say that God only brote hate and anger to this world fighting and killing over one name or the outher. There types of people in this world thouse that can hold strong to there faith and learn and become inriched, and thouse that say that there is no more to a subject matter and become violent when they here things that does not conform with the abc programing in there head. It is amazing that hear on a question and answer bord we all love to grow and become more.
Gen. 3:15 is the first promise of the Savior, God making a way out for the mess Adam and Eve had caused.
"The Lord God said to the serpent..."I will put enmity between your seed [Satan] and her seed [Eve's descendant, Jesus]; he [Jesus] shall bruise your [Satan's] head, and you [Satan] shall bruise his [Jesus'] heel."
I agree with you wondergirl but I was never taught about Gen 3:15 in the churches when I was growing up. I realized that and how Christianity prevalent is to and in the Old Testament when I accepted Jesus in my 20's and read it for myself.
But as Wayne says some are content at where they are with their understanding. But too that can be good because sometimes it takes a child's eyes to see things we often over look.
how Christianity is prevalent to and in the Old Testament
The Old Testament is full of stories of people failing and God forgiving. In effect, the NT Gospel is very much a part of the OT Law, and is always the better way to live--our being bound by Love and not by Rules.
Throughout the OT is the birthright thing, the oldest son inheriting the family fortune PLUS the promise that the hoped-for Savior (first promised in Gen. 3) will come through his lineage. Isaiah is especially full of prophecies of this Savior who will restore the Jewish nation. Unfortunately, many of the Jews both in the OT and in the New believed the Savior was going to be a political figure who would free the nation from the Romans or whoever their captors were and establish them in the land that God had promised to Abram in Gen. 12. The Jews are still waiting for their Savior; the Christians believe he has come, and not for political purposes.
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