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Old Feb 13, 2008, 05:11 AM
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1 or 3?

how could 1 god to 3?
is it the truth or what......

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Old Feb 13, 2008, 05:52 AM   #2  
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Are you asking about the Trinity?
IF so, think of in human terms. You have a body (1), a soul (2), and a spirit (3). Your body is the physical part you can look at and feel. This flesh and bones body has a projected life span of around 80 years in today's world. Your soul is the thinking part of your body. It gives you reasoning skills, and controls the body functions. Your soul feels pain, hate, rage, love. Then comes the third part. Your spirit. In secular terms if you were to say you heard a little voice telling you not to do something. That would be your spirit talking to you. This might not be totally accurate, but it is how I can best understand the Trinity. The Bible clearly tells us about the Trinity. You must simply read. GEt a good concordance Bible in any translation that you can understand and start searching and reading.
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Old Feb 13, 2008, 08:33 AM   #3  
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Some people have difficulty with the Trinity. Our finite human mind can't completely grasp the infinite God. But if you believe in God you shouldn't have any trouble believing He is omnipotent. Because God has infinite power it shouldn't be hard for anyone who believes to understand that God can be three separate beings (The Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit) and they all 3 make up One, and that is God.

It is and was no feat for God to manifest himself in the flesh (Jesus) and still remain in Heaven as well. Jesus' disciples were worried when He told them He would be crucified. They didn't want Him to leave them. Jesus told them that His Father would send them a Comforter (the Holy Spirit) to be with them always, that they would not be alone. Jesus died and rose from the grave to sit on the right hand side of His Father in Heaven. God sends Himself as the Holy Spirit to all of us who accept Jesus as our savior, yet The Father and The Son remain in Heaven as well.

Because God is omnipresent He remained and remains in Heaven, but was also on earth manifested in the flesh as Jesus, and God sends Himself as the Holy Spirit that is all across this earth in those He saves.

All three are God.

450donn is correct, the Bible clearly speaks of the Trinity. You must simply read.

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Old Feb 14, 2008, 03:45 AM   #4  
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its means there are 3 gods
n because they r togather so the word is peaceful otherwise the world will distroyed!

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Old Feb 15, 2008, 05:14 PM   #5  
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Father, Son, and Holy Spirit; in such perfect agreement that Jesus could say "If you have seen me you have seen the Father". The Holy Spirit proceeds from both the Father and the Son, hence, one God. Lots of discussion on this point for a very long time.
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There are not "three" Gods in the trinity, there is one God with various persons, it is a special ability of God that man can not fully understand.

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marvin_082500 disagrees: where you can find in the bible one God in Various person?
RickJ agrees: You are correct. Some people ignore historic Christianity choosing man's doctrines instead.
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Old Feb 16, 2008, 10:41 AM   #7  
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The The Athanasian Creed gives a solid explanation of the Trinity.


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Old Mar 16, 2008, 08:43 PM   #8  
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theres no such thing trinity, even in the bible you cant find trinity. it was only invented by the catholic church. There two God you must worship. The Son And the Father. There are many gods (psalms 82:1,6) "a psalm of Asaph. God standeth in the congregation of mighty; He judgeth among the gods.", " I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most high"

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Fr_Chuck disagrees: obviously someone who is not a christian, since the trinity is a very accepted teaching in almost all christian denominations
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Old Mar 16, 2008, 11:47 PM   #9  
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Originally Posted by mani_jeddah
how could 1 god to 3?
is it the truth or what......
And as long as people believe in the trinity, they will never come to a full understanding of God's Word, which in NO WAY supports this doctrine.

The Athanasian Creed says that its members are "incomprehensible" and teachers of the doctrine often say it is a mystery to man. Obviously this Trinitarian God is not the one Jesus had in mind when he said in John 4:22 "We worship what we know."

Neither Jesus nor the first century christians used this as a basis for their worship.

A quote from The New Catholic Encyclopedia states "The formulation 'one God in three Persons' was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title - the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective."

So from Gods perspective, no this is not true...Jesus is Gods son and the Holy Spirit is Gods active force, but of course many will dispute this.
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Old Mar 17, 2008, 09:42 AM   #10  
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And as long as people believe in the trinity, they will never come to a full understanding of God's Word, which in NO WAY supports this doctrine.

So from Gods perspective, no this is not true...Jesus is Gods son and the Holy Spirit is Gods active force, but of course many will dispute this.


Yes i will dispute this because even though the Bible does not mention The word Trinity, it is very apparent that God is made up of 3 components. The father son and Spirit. These are 3 persons in ONE. The Holy Spirit is not a force but is a person just like God and Jesus. This is evident in the Bible because when Jesus makes reference to Holy Spirit it is always in the third person. He says I shall send one who will be your compforter. The Bible also says the Holy Spirit Grieves... which shows that the Holy spirit has emotion. A force does not have emotion.

A mere "Force" would not be able to :

communicate ('speak') (Acts 13:2),
intercede (step in on behalf of someone) (Romans 8:26),
testify (John 15:26)
guide (John 16:13),
command (Acts 16:6,7),
appoint (Acts 20:28),
lead (Romans 8:14),
reveal to someone how wrong, foolish, or sinful he/she was (John 16:8).
seal God's promise in believers' hearts (Ephesians 1:13-14)
shape the life of each person and community to Christ's (Romans 8:1-17)

The Bible says the Holy Spirit intercedes for us, so He is a person and He is God.

Jesus is the son of God and Is God.
John 1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend[a] it....

14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.
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