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    JudyKayTee Posts: 46,503, Reputation: 4600
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    Aug 26, 2012, 06:32 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeverGiveUp2005 View Post
    It is emotional abuse to cut these grandchildren off from their grandparents. Contact your local Cabinet for Families and report this emotional abuse. Keep on it. The daughter may get so tired of defending herself that she will listen to reason if the social worker is on your side. Focus on the needs of the child and show the agency that seeing you is in this child's best interest. Also. see if the court will assign a guardian ad litem to represent the child. Keep researching online for more resources. Don't ever give up!

    Many States do not have Grandparent rights and so, no, refusing to allow the children to see the Grandchildren is not emotional abuse.
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    Sep 4, 2012, 12:32 AM
    My heart goes out to you in your situation. I am in the same boat, only I have 3 grown adult children who have not spoke to me in 4 years. I lost them and 7 grandchildren from them at the same time. I thought I could die. I didn't know how I could make it through the next minute. The pain was almost too much to bare. I got very sick from this. I was hospitalized with Diabetes and not one of them called to see if I was all right. My son said I waqs a wasted piece of flesh and my daughter called me a collossal '", They might as well twisted the knife while they had it deep into my heart. My middle daughter hung in their with me for a while, but buckled under the pressure of her brother and sister. Was I a drunk? NO...Did I do Drugs?....NO. Did I abuse my kids physically? NO, Did I ever yell at them....yep ! Never called them names, Just would get frustrated as normal parents do. Some may be thinking, " I must have did something"...Well, No, I did nothing out of the ordinary and nothing to harm them. I spoiled them rotton, that is where I went wrong. I did not hold them acountable for their actions at school, or home. I did everything for them, Include make excuses to the teachers as to why they didn't do their homework. When They turned 16, I bought them cars, they always had designer clothes, and my house was the house where all the scholl kids hung out". And, I always told them I loved them. You see, their father abandoned the kids and I when they were 6, 4 and 18 months old... he never was in their lives. I was. 27 years later, he comes into their lives and ge is a hero? And I an the terrible parent? He was on drugs for all those years until he got too old to do them , then he decided to be a father... He even wanted me to let their stepfather adopt them when they were 12, 10 and 8 years old. It broke my heart to wonder how someone could throw their children away like that. So, I am the bad guy. I did all the hard work of raiosing them, now I have no children or grandchildren. I have grieved them like a death for 4 years... all 10 of them. God bless you, but please, I tried the crying and the begging, pleading... it onl;y drives them further away. Let them come to you, and you live your life in a healthy state of mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    Many States do not have Grandparent rights and so, no, refusing to allow the children to see the Grandchildren is not emotional abuse.
    It IS emotional abuse, ( law or not ) if this is done maliciously and the grandparent and children had a strong bond.
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    Jan 18, 2013, 09:21 PM
    I agree it is emotional abuse when grandparents and grandchildren have a bond.. in the uk now it has changed whereas the grandparents DO have more rights than they did. If they can prove it is in the child's best emotional interest etc the grandparents CAN get rights now
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    Jan 22, 2013, 07:52 PM
    I am having some of the same problems with my daughter. I raised her by myself, as her daddy left before she was born. It wasn't easy and the stress through the years have taken it's toll. I have leukemia, benign brain tumor, rheumatoid arthritis, asthma and many other problems. Believe me, they are all real. I am so sad, I don't know what to do. My blood pressure is through the roof even though I have doubled my medicine. I don't care about anything any more. I have absolutely nothing to live for. It would be a blessing, if I would just go to sleep and not wake up. I hope everyone with this situation can find a way to cope.This is not new for me. She does this quite often. I know that she is a user. She finds these older men she cares nothing about and takes them to the cleaners, money wise. She never has even given me a nickel mother's day card. I have given and given to her and I'm through with that. She is a liar. I find out after she dumps these guys, that she told them, I never helped her and I am mean. They seem to think, she lies, so they will feel sorry and give to her. They have bought cars, furniture, expensive clothes, jewelry and plenty of cash. I just don't understand her.. I'm still so sad, no matter what.
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    Jan 23, 2013, 08:37 AM
    I am in the same boat as all of you. I was thrilled with the birth of my first grandson and equally thrilled when his little brother came along five years later! I provided seven years of free child care, driving to their home through blizzards, ice storms, thunderstorms etc. every morning. I also provided financial assistance for their care, paid for every portrait they had taken, took hundreds of pictures of them, bought them toys, bought them clothes, played with them every day. They were my world! We were extremely close. The oldest is now 8 and his little brother 3. A little over a year ago my daughter and I got into an argument and she completely cut my husband and I off from the boys. I have made several attempts to contact her to try to work things out but they go ignored. Let me add that she is married to a very controlling and domineering man with twisted ideas of right and wrong. At one point they separated and she and the oldest child lived with us for three months during which time she told me horror stories of her life with him. Much to my dismay she went back to him. They claim to be Christians and she used forgiveness as her excuse for going back. The past year has been hell for me with emotions ranging from depression to hopelessness to suicidal to emptiness etc. I worry so about the boys as I've been told by other family members that the oldest has uncontrollable crying spells and worries all the time about dying and the youngest has been suffering seizures. I have contacted two attorneys but have been told that in Indiana grandparents basically have no rights. When I stumbled across this website and read all of your stories it helped to know that as bad as it is I am not alone. I think it's time for grandparents rights to be established in all 50 states and I plan on making it a mission. Thank you all for sharing your stories and hopefully things will work out for all of us someday.
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    Jan 23, 2013, 08:42 AM
    How do you intend to proceed with your mission? I'm not saying it's not a good, reasonable idea. I am saying that States refuse to get involved in the Grandparent/Grandchildren argument because it takes "control" of the children out of the hands of the parents and into the hands of third parties - the Grandparents. The Courts are jammed full of cases now.

    The Courts are "assuming" that parents know what is in the best interest of the children and if that includes denying the grandparents visitation, so be it. I have worked a number of these cases (and I am not saying this is anyone's experience on this thread) but the vast, vast majority have involved grandparents making inappropriate comments about the parents to the children - or in the presence of the children.

    And as far as whether denying visitation is emotional abuse, the answer "yes it is" is an emotional answer, not a legal one.

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