My son is a constant liar and now he's become a thief even more so. He steals at school gets caught he steals at home and gets caught he gets punished for his actions but nothing seems to work, he sees a therapist on a weekly basis and that don't seem to work, he's very manipulative and knows how to gain the trust of people he don't know to get what he wants at the moment. He lies to other adults about things at home to get them to believe or feel sorry for him and look down on us. Its to the point where I'm very helpless I tried all you can think of I brought the law didn't help asked advise from other parents didn't help, he just seems to do what he wants when he wants it. I don't understand. The worst of it all is he's the eldest and there's 4 under him. They don't do as he does yet.. And that's what I'm trying to avoid. He is in the process of getting evaluated but until then what can I do or what should I do I can't trust him around my things or things of my children without worrying that he will steal it while everyone's asleep. Last night for example my daughter was playing her ds and when she was done she put it under her pillow then next day it was gone no where in sight and he was still awake when she went to sleep. This is getting out of hand and its got to be stopped real soon. If anyone has any advise for me please let me know I'm open to hear anything.

My younger brother is 14 and he's gotten into some very rough situations, he's started smoking cigarettes, and pot, and my parents aren't quite sure what to do. Possibly you can have him spend a day in juvenile hall to see what he'll end up doing if he continues this path and possibly it could change him. And you can limit his hours he's allowed out. Just some thoughts my parents have been trying that seem to be working.

I tried that and it just made him worse, he usually rides the bus to and from school and when he's suppose to come home off the bus he goes somewhere else. He's run away more then 3 times also.. :(

Wow, I'm so sorry. Have you tried family therapy?

Yes we did that for about 2 yrs and it workd for me but not him he now has his own therapist but therapy to me seems to work only if you open yourself up to it and take in the advise it gives and in his case he hears it but don't apply it.:rolleyes:

That must be aggravating, seeing that's your money too I presume. Does he have any mental illnesses or ADD/ADHD? Maybe he needs a form of medication to help.

I really think he might have ADD but until his therapist gets that's set up for him to get evaluated I won't know.. I think if not ADD then ODD "oppositional defiant disorder" it matches his description

He needs psychiatric care

At this point I think you have to wait for the assessment before you can go further. He could have a disorder, if so then medication or diet change may help.

You seem to have tried every disciplinary action and therapy and it isn't working. I can't think of anything else that might work for your son.

Have him assessed and go from there, I think that's your best bet.

Good luck. :)

You're right just have to wait it out.

I totally understand where you are. My 15 yr old son sounds like your child. I guess a word to the wise. Don't give up. As hard as it seems, keep loving your child. It seems that I am speaking to myself. I want to give up, but I haven't yet. Therapy, punishment.. nothing works, but I am sure that we can't give up. Good luck. Kelitta