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Old Nov 4, 2009, 04:16 PM
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It started with head shaking

Hi my son started shaking his head nearly 2 years ago at meal times and was very tired and grumpy all the time and waking up screaming,laughing and talking to himself.
I didn't put all of these together until around a year ago
He is waiting to see the child psycologist also and also attending speech therapy.

The head shaking only happened at meal times,He holds his left hand close to his chest most of the time in a fist,His tongue slightly out,And he make a strange noise with it,The noise breaks up into 5/10 seconds at a time
He does try to fight this when theres someone at the house thats not usually here.
When he comes round he asks ''are we going home'' ''whats wrong mammy'' ''what happend''
With him being tired all the time i decided to put a camera in his room he also does this at night shaking his head,Pulling his arm close to his chest and shaking but more than he does at meal times,faster and more viciously,He is not doing if for attention.
This is keeping him awake at night.
He wakes up crying and hes complaining of sore ankles and legs i put this down to growning pains but now im not sure.
He used to wake up screaming wouldnt let me hold him or anything,he was so bad one night i cut his baby grow off him because i thought he was really hurt,My doctor said it was night terrors.
i showed our new health nurse a video of my son at meal time shaking his head and she said he must be copying it off somebody else,we keep our selves to ourselves,that was the first time she had seen him.
i went to my doctor and she refered him for the peadiactric nurse who sent him for an EEG to see if he has epliepsy they done the flashing light test while the had wires stuck to his head and he had no fits or headshaking.
he constantly asks questions i know all kids do but he will ask ''where are we going'' ill tell him where we are going and not 2 minutes later he asks the same again and again with me telling him again and again and again.
Since he was 6 months old i have told him the colours of ever toy he had in his hand,the colour of the grass,trees,the sky ect and sang the alphabet with him over and over again and counted every step up to bed and down to breakfast non of this seems to be going in hes nearly 4 now and still cant count to 5 or tell me the colours i feel like im putting all in and getting nowhere fast.
ive tried everything books,pc games,toys,everyday objects to count and ask colours.

Has anyone herd of or seen this with another child?
someone mentioned it maybe a mild autism could anybody shed any light on this please

And thank you in advance for you advice

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Old Nov 4, 2009, 05:24 PM   #2  
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It does sound like autism or some kind of neuological disorder. Many people are noticing that around the time their kid turns two that they are having these kind of problems. The head of the South Hills Pittsburgh Pa autism chapter said that her son and the son of the head of the North Hills chapter noticed that their kids behaviors suddenly changed after this one immunization shot around that time.
Also my friend said her son was developing normally and around two he all of a sudden quit talking and learning and was diagnosed with autism. Many parents are saying this is happening to their kids. Mostly sons right around their second birthday.
They say that out of 4 million kids 24,000 are getting autistic.
I know you are in England. Do they require the immunization shots there?

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Gemini54 agrees: Your comment about immunization is interesting - reseach is growing that implicates it!
COOKIE MONSTER agrees: i live in ireland and all children have to be imunized or they can not go to school or nursery
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It sounds like autism or a form of developmental disorder. Autism is a broad spectrum, so people can be mild or severely autistic.

One of the typical behaviors for autism is what they call "stim" i.e. stimulation. People with autism will repeat a movement to either stimulate or calm themselves. You may have seen autistic people flapping their arms up and down, as one example.

You need to get him assessed as soon as possible, because it sounds as if there is an intellectual development disorder as well.

I would be going to a pediatrician, not a child psychologist.

There is an autism society in the UK, they will be able to refer you to a specialist in your area.

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N0help4u agrees: Yes exactly
COOKIE MONSTER agrees: we are seeing the pediatrics nurse for the results for the EEG but as some of you know they ignore what you say because your not the doctor they are.are first health nurse sent refered us to the psycologist because of his behavior
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I have videos by a few doctors that warn of the autism connection.
They say shots no longer contain mercury or aluminum but they just use another name for it.

YouTube - Part 1: The Vaccine-Autism Connection
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I have videos by a few doctors that warn of the autism connection.
They say shots no longer contain mercury or aluminum but they just use another name for it.

YouTube - Part 1: The Vaccine-Autism Connection
I have also read some stuff in the regular press about it - so it must be in the public arena if the papers are discussing it!
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behaviors suddenly changed after this one immunization shot around that time.
You know I love you...but DON'T blame it on the immunizations. We could get into this debate all day. There are other studies that blame autism on MANY other factors that do not include vaccines.

As a matter of fact, the European doctor who originally blamed autism on vaccinations has been proven wrong and is facing charges.

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Yup, and I believe EVERYTHING I hear on YouTube and/or wiki. NOT!!!

The medication that this supposed doctor is talking about is Thimerisol (sp).
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I agree that there is something neurological going on, but I don't believe it's any kind of autism. Since I have an adult son who is autistic, I've spent a number of years reading up on and talking with professionals about autism. Head shaking as this little boy is doing it isn't one of autism's repetitive behaviors.

Tourette's was the first thing I thought of, but I'm not so sure that explains the rest of his behavior. Age two is often the threshold year for beginning developmental and neurological problems, but I am not so sure immunizations are the cause or the catalyst.

He may be allergic to something in the food he eats. He definitely should be seen by a pediatric neurologist.

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COOKIE MONSTER agrees: we have ruled out being allergies to foods,and he was in a high chair i changed it to a lower one but still no change,ive even tried to destract him with dvds,reading storeys,asking questions while hes eating
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I have also read some stuff in the regular press about it - so it must be in the public arena if the papers are discussing it!
And the papers make money on fear mongering. Look, I'm a nurse, I specialize in this sort of thing. I give newborns their first vaccination. I know what is out there and what is to be feared and what is not to be feared.

I am specialized in pediatrics.

This is fear mongering at it's worst. I guess we should all stop immunizing and get prepared for outbreaks such as smallpox...mumps...measles, etc. all over again.

NH...are you willing to see your grandchild suffer any of these diseases? Spread them to the rest of the families? I really didn't think so.
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I am not so sure I rule it out. They even explain the link of how some are suseptible while others are not. It also makes me wonder when it is the one shot near their second birthday that is being linked to it rather than any one of the shots. They say the rise in autism in kids is starting to get alarming something like 24,000 to 4 million.
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