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  • Dec 17, 2011, 08:32 PM
    danaesellers
    My 2000 chevy venture is overheating HELP!
    I have a 2000 chevy venture that is overheating! It started overheating over a month ago. And has sat since, we changed the raditator because their was a hole in it, then test drove it and it overheated AGAIN! We then changed the thermostat and yet again overheated... We even tried back flushing the system thinking the dex cool stuff messed it up. We have no heat, and it is still overheating! So we changed the water pump. We tested the head and its not that. We have had suggestions of a temperature sending unit. Or something but why don't we have heat!>> CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP! THANK YOU!
  • Dec 18, 2011, 04:58 AM
    TxGreaseMonkey
    Most engine overheating problems are directly attributable to poor preventive maintenance or improper coolant filling procedures. Attention to detail makes a big difference. It's best to change coolant every 3 years with a 50/50 mixture of auto maker recommended antifreeze and distilled water. It's good practice to remove engine drain plugs during this process. To refill Hondas, it's important to open the bleeder bolt, add coolant until it comes out of the bleeder bolt, tighten the bleeder bolt, turn the heater control to high, turn the fan off, run the engine until the thermostatically controlled radiator fan comes on, add additional coolant until the radiator is full, and rinse out and refill the coolant reservoir. On all cars, it's important to purge air from the cooling system, since it can cause overheating or no heat in the system.

    Today, it's important to only use the antifreeze recommended by the car's manufacturer. There are huge differences in the types of antifreeze and using the wrong one can have disastrous consequences. Don't take a chance and use the wrong antifreeze. Honda, for instance, recommends using an anti-freeze that doesn't contain silicates or borates. Silicates are abrasive and cause premature water pump bearing seal wear, which greatly shortens the life of the bearing. Once antifreeze gets into the bearing, it will not last long. Other manufacturers have differing requirements and it's not wise to experiment with the chemistry.

    It's also important to use distilled water, because tap, well, and softened water can cause unforeseen problems. Tap and well water are loaded with minerals that can build-up and block radiator and heater cores. Minerals found in tap water tend to combine with coolant additives. When this happens, they form a chemical complex called “phosphate scale,” which coats the heat-transfer surfaces of radiators, heater cores, and heads, resulting in decreased heat-transfer efficiency. When this occurs, your vehicle will overheat and run much hotter than it was designed to. This scale can also lead to the destruction of water pump bearings. When this happens, the radiator or heater core must be removed and roded or replaced. Soft water is known to weaken solder joints and cause corrosion, due to salts in the water. Keep in mind that chemical reactions increase with temperature. With the high heat of modern engines, it doesn't take long for caustic steam and heat to corrode, overheat, and damage an aluminum block engine not properly maintained.

    It's also important to regularly change radiator and heater hoses. Most experts recommend changing all hoses every 4 to 7 years. Inspect hoses regularly for softness, bulges, and deterioration. Pay particular attention to the top radiator hose. Internal deterioration may be almost impossible to detect. Therefore, don't be "penny wise and pound foolish" and try pushing things too far. Many aluminum heads and valve trains have had to be replaced, due to hose failure. The repair bill can easily be $2,300 or more. All it takes is allowing an aluminum head engine to overheat once. Never drive a car that is overheating--have it towed.

    Common causes of overheating:

    1. Insufficient coolant and/or air in the system. When the system is cool, check the radiator and overflow tank coolant level. If the level is low, start looking for leaks. Check for deteriorated or damaged radiator and heater hoses; e.g. cracks, pin holes, and clamps that leak under pressure. Also, look for bulges and collapsed hoses. Attach a cooling system pressure tester to the radiator, if necessary, to help locate leaks. Pressurize the system to 16 psi. Learn how to properly purge your cooling system of air--this can be crucial in some vehicles. On Hondas, for instance, fill the radiator with coolant, until it comes out of the opened bleeder bolt.

    2. Air flow problems--leaves, bugs, dirt, feathers, or plastic bags blocking the flow of air through the radiator. Gently clean the radiator with a garden hose.

    3. Radiator fan not operating properly--check fuses; Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) Switch, not the ECT Sensor; and radiator fan relay. The cooling fan not operating properly is one of the most common reasons engines overheat. If the coolant is low and/or there's air in the system, the ECT Switch may not turn the radiator fan on.

    4. Radiator shroud does not seal tightly enough for the fan to draw air through the radiator. This can cause the engine to overheat, while the vehicle is stopped.

    5. Faulty radiator cap--doesn't maintain proper pressure or one or more valves are bad. Test cap relief pressure with a radiator cap tester (KD 3700 or Stant 12270). On non-expansion tank systems, which are most systems besides Ford's, there are two valves inside the cap that can fail. One allows hot coolant to flow into the overflow tank, the other allows coolant to flow from the overflow tank to the radiator, as the engine cools. If the coolant can't flow back into the engine, there won't be enough coolant and the engine can overheat. It's best to use a high quality, preferably OEM, cap.

    6. Faulty thermostat--sticking closed. Improperly installed thermostats are one of the leading causes of Hondas overheating.

    7. Radiator core blocked--mineral build-up (phosphate scale) and corrosion are the most common causes.

    8. Inoperative water pump--pinch the top radiator hose closed with your hand, while the engine is idling, then release it. You should be able to feel a surge of coolant, if the pump is working properly. Change the water pump every time you change the timing belt.

    9. Improper grade of engine oil--higher viscosity oil generates more internal friction and heat. Synthetic engine oils have higher coefficients of heat than conventional oils, which allows bearings and engines to run cooler--use them.


    In an emergency, set the heater to maximum heat, blower to high, and open the windows. The heater will act as another radiator and help lower the engine temperature.



    Heater

    Lack of heat is usually caused by blockage in the heater core. Try reverse flushing the heater core. If there's no blockage, focus on the heater control valve.
  • Dec 18, 2011, 11:58 AM
    danaesellers
    We just got the van in September and it has ran perfect until now. And we have done the back flush in it already... radiator is new, and the thermostat is new... and the water pump...
  • Dec 18, 2011, 12:02 PM
    odinn7
    I think you're missing the part where TxGreaseMonkey mentioned air in the system in his excellent post... Check for air pockets,
  • Dec 18, 2011, 12:06 PM
    danaesellers
    We already bleed the system for air pockets, and it did nothing. Lol I'm not trying to be rude or anything but I swear this van just hates me!
  • Dec 18, 2011, 12:12 PM
    odinn7
    Well, what you describe comes down to 2 major possibilities:

    1) Air in system

    2) Bad head/head gasket

    Could be something else but that's where I would put my money. I have seen air trapped in systems even though you may think it's all out.
  • Dec 18, 2011, 12:14 PM
    danaesellers
    Since we changed the water pump I don't believe my husband tried the air locks so we will def. try that again. And if that doesn't work I feel I agreeit may be the head. Even though we had it tested:(

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