 | | | Human vs pig and chimpanzee DNA
Asked Mar 12, 2009, 11:09 AM
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32 Answers Compare the DNA similarity between humans and pigs versus humans and chimpanzees. Thread Summary |
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Feb 7, 2012, 11:25 PM
| | | Genome to god in a few notes. Um starts with the same letter I observe! | | |  | New Member | |
Sep 24, 2012, 11:54 PM
| | | We are more unique than previously thought, according to new comparisons of human and chimpanzee DNA. It has long been held that we share 98.5 per cent of our genetic material with our closest relatives. That now appears to be wrong. In fact, we share less than 95 per cent of our genetic material, a three-fold increase in the variation between us and chimps.
[DeWitt, D.A., Greater Than 98% Chimp/Human DNA Similarity? Not Any More., TJ 17(1):8–10, 2003.]
And this was later found to be an underestimate by more than a factor of 2. The actual DNA similarity is less than 86.7%!!! And when the presence of other genome (two MHC Class I genes, the MICA and MICB, yet chimpanzees contain only one gene at this location, the Patr-MIC.) is figured in it will end up being significantly lower.
[Anzai, T., Shiina, T., Kimura, N., Yanagiya, K., Kohara, S., Shigenari, A., Yamagata, T., Kulski, J.K., Naruse, T.K., Fujimori, Y., Fukuzumi, Y., Yamazaki, M., Tashiro, H., Iawmoto, C., Umehara, Y., Imanishi, T., Meyer, A., Ikeo, K., Gojobori, T., Bahram, S. and Inoko, H., Comparative sequencing of human and chimpanzee MHC class I regions unveils insertions/deletions as the major path to genomic divergence, Proc. Nat. Acad. Sci. USA 100(13):7708–7713, 2003.]
So in the end, yes we are more closely related to Pigs from a DNA stand point. | | |  | New Member | |
Sep 25, 2012, 04:23 AM
| | | Thanks for the update. How about our similarity to pigs has this also changed? | | |  | Expert | |
Sep 25, 2012, 07:03 AM
| | | Please note that the article cited by OldManWinter is from the web site answersingenesis.org - not a reputable scientific source, so take it with a grain of salt. | | |  | New Member | |
Sep 25, 2012, 07:26 AM
| | | Grain noted! | | |  | New Member | |
Sep 25, 2012, 03:07 PM
| | | Please note that these were the peer journals not a web site. Take time to look at the citations for crying out loud. | | |  | Expert | |
Sep 25, 2012, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by OldManWinter Please note that these were the peer journals not a web site. Take time to look at the citations for crying out loud. | I did a Google search on "DeWitt, D.A., Greater Than 98% Chimp/Human DNA Similarity? Not Any More.," and all that comes up is the suspect web site that I noted, not any "peer reviewed" journals. Is there another citation we should be aware of? | | |  | New Member | |
Sep 25, 2012, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ebaines I did a Google search on "DeWitt, D.A., Greater Than 98% Chimp/Human DNA Similarity? Not Any More.," and all that comes up is the suspect web site that I noted, not any "peer reviewed" journals. Is there another citation we should be aware of? | These should be adequate web references. If you wish to look for citation titles on the web please refer to Scholar Google it helps.
http://www.pnas.org/content/99/21/13633.short
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378111906005749
http://www.creationontheweb.com/images/pdfs/tj/j19_3/j19_3_4-5.pdf
http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pbio.0040352
http://www.pnas.org/content/80/16/5012.short
The short and the long of the matter is that we differ considerably from chimps and other primates. Genetically the case can not be made that we evolved from them. People may use the appearance method espoused by Darwin's adaptation/evolution theory as support, but not through the use of genetic statistics.
This matters little in relationship to ones religious beliefs or lack of belief. This is a matter of workable science. | | |  | New Member | |
Sep 25, 2012, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by OldManWinter These should be adequate web references. If you wish to look for citation titles on the web please refer to Scholar Google it helps.
http://www.pnas.org/content/99/21/13633.short
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378111906005749
http://www.creationontheweb.com/images/pdfs/tj/j19_3/j19_3_4-5.pdf
http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pbio.0040352
http://www.pnas.org/content/80/16/5012.short
The short and the long of the matter is that we differ considerably from chimps and other primates. Genetically the case can not be made that we evolved from them. People may use the appearance method espoused by Darwin's adaptation/evolution theory as support, but not through the use of genetic statistics.
This matters little in relationship to ones religious beliefs or lack of belief. This is a matter of workable science. | Well I looked around and this 'seemed' to have been peer reviewed : http://kgov.com/list-of-genomes-that-just-dont-fit
I take the broad brush strokes first, on can always overpaint for detail later!
Not much on pigs! | | |  | New Member | |
Sep 25, 2012, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by OldManWinter These should be adequate web references. If you wish to look for citation titles on the web please refer to Scholar Google it helps.
http://www.pnas.org/content/99/21/13633.short
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378111906005749
http://www.creationontheweb.com/images/pdfs/tj/j19_3/j19_3_4-5.pdf
http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pbio.0040352
http://www.pnas.org/content/80/16/5012.short
The short and the long of the matter is that we differ considerably from chimps and other primates. Genetically the case can not be made that we evolved from them. People may use the appearance method espoused by Darwin's adaptation/evolution theory as support, but not through the use of genetic statistics.
This matters little in relationship to ones religious beliefs or lack of belief. This is a matter of workable science. | Well I looked around and this 'seemed' to have been peer reviewed : http://kgov.com/list-of-genomes-that-just-dont-fit
I take the broad brush strokes first, one can always overpaint for detail later!
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