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Evoloution theory?
I'm not too sure where to post this ridiculous question I've been thinking about. Biology is my best guess. There is a theory that humans evolved from apes. (I myself am a Catholic, and don't belive this theory, but that's besides the point) If this is so, why are there still apes? I know it sounds so stupid and there's probably an easy logical explanation, but I never claimed to be a genius Just something I wonder from time to time.
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Originally Posted by ScottGem
So my point is that you don't have to feel conflicted between your faith in God and what science has proven. You just have to understand that the Bible need not be taken totally literally.
I do not feel conflicted between my faith in God and science and I have never disputed the findings of Darwin. Perhaps I was being unclear when I said I question my religion from time to time. There was never a time when I didn't have faith in God. I should've been more specific. Just because I believe one thing, I still like to learn about and understand other beliefs and theories. Another thing, my religion teaches to take the bible totally literally. Do I personally? No, not quite. But it doesn't matter how good or bad of a Catholic I am. I feel that people have the right to take the Bible totally literally if they so chose and I respect them. I apologize if I was at all rude or misleading as that was not my intent. And no I have not even heard of 'Inherit the wind' but it certainly sounds like something that would interest me I appreciate all your comments and input, and I'd like to make it clear that I never meant to challenge scientific evidence. Maybe I shouldn't have posted that God vs. Science thing. I had a legitimate question (silly as it may be), and I realize it was my fault God got brought into this in the first place. I probably should have thought of that before I clicked submit. Again, my apologies.
I am not sure why this is so interesting and what it points to?
It's a joke mountain_man....
You said you haven't seen evidence of evolution in the past 2000 years. I pointed to the median height of a man during Abe Lincoln's life and the median height of a man in present day. Notice, the median height is now higher. Evolution at work. Get it? Simple thing that is probably caused by other factors, but it's funnier given this thread if we call it evolution.
You said you haven't seen evidence of evolution in the past 2000 years. I pointed to the median height of a man during Abe Lincoln's life and the median height of a man in present day. Notice, the median height is now higher. Evolution at work. Get it? Simple thing that is probably caused by other factors, but it's funnier given this thread if we call it evolution.
but is this more adapting than biologically evolving?
My point was that the agent of evolution in modern man may be different than the agent of evolution in other animals and plants; not that evolution in man won't happen.
In an earlier post you asked whether there was any evidence of human evolution in the past 2000 years. I think probably not. An important part of evolution is that natural boundaries such as oceans and deserts serve to isolate animal and plant populations, so that they can evolve in separate paths without co-mingling genes. Hence the isolation of Australia, for example, is responsible for the vastly different wildlife there than, say, in Asia. However, given the ability of man to travel and share genes easily across natural boundaries, I doubt that there is much significant differentiation between humans today and humans of even a few thousand years ago. But go back several hundred thousand years and the evidence for evolution is clear.
What evidence besides I assume archaelogical supports the theory of evolution in the past several hundred thousand years? And based off the evolution theory where/when did everything begin?
My point was that the agent of evolution in modern man may be different than the agent of evolution in other animals and plants; not that evolution in man won't happen.
In an earlier post you asked whether there was any evidence of human evolution in the past 2000 years. I think probably not. An important part of evolution is that natural boundaries such as oceans and deserts serve to isolate animal and plant populations, so that they can evolve in separate paths without co-mingling genes. Hence the isolation of Australia, for example, is responsible for the vastly different wildlife there than, say, in Asia. However, given the ability of man to travel and share genes easily across natural boundaries, I doubt that there is much significant differentiation between humans today and humans of even a few thousand years ago. But go back several hundred thousand years and the evidence for evolution is clear.
Don't forget natural selection doesn't really exist today. Medical advances allow us to keep people alive for much longer and allow them to reproduce. Genetic disorders can carry on and on and on because we have medication to keep people around, whereas back when Caveman Zorg and his wife Cavewoman Zorga had a baby with a life-compromising disorder (like a heart condition), it would have died. Or if the baby was born with a genetic disorder (like dwarfism) it might have survived, but would have been less likely to reproduce. Now we medicate people, shock people back to life, keep them alive on ventilators and so on. BTW, I'm not saying this is a bad thing, just pointing out that natural selection doesn't occur in the same way it used to. Personally, I like that if I get an infection a 10-day round of antibiotics keeps me alive instead of becoming septic and dying.....
What evidence besides I assume archaelogical supports the theory of evolution in the past several hundred thousand years? And based off the evolution theory where/when did everything begin?
There have been several new species evolve within our life times. For instance the evolution of anti-biotic resistant bacteria in our hospitals. There's also a bacteria which digests nylon - a synthetic man-made fabric, so that must have evolved in the past few hundred years. There are many more evidences which are not archaelogical.
The theory of evolution starts with a single self replicating organism or chemical. It doesn't attempt to explain how that organism got there.
Human evolution is much less natural then is used to be. Even the weakest members of the species can pass on their genes. Also we are losing some of our hard earned evolutionary advantages. Our sense of smell used to be highly honed for keeping track of tribe members in the dark of night and to keep vigil against predators, but now we have absolutely no use for our sense of smell, and it is slowly diminishing (this is why there is a big disparity in the ability to recognise smells, some people are better than others because now the smelling genes are not selected for).
I've been saying for years the the birth control pill is bad for evolution. The people that should be using it don't and the people that really should be having lots of kids don't. There is a movie call Idiocracy that is a comedy that shows this point really well.
Neanderthals and Cro-Magnons (modern humans) both had the same ancestors, but are two different animals. The Cro-Magnons were better suited for their environment and lived on, while the Neanderthal race died out. Try looking it up some time for interesting information.
Just something I wonder from time to time.
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