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Feb 3, 2007, 05:14 PM
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| | | Pending lawsuit I might have a stroke 6.5 years ago an unsecured loan with a Credit Union in KY was charged off for 1780.00. I told them I simply couldn't pay it or installments due to a lay off and 7 months of unemployment. They charged it off and I NEVER EVER heard from them again. I've spent the past 6.5 years repairing my credit to an excellent rating. Recently, I checked my Transunion report and this Credit Union listed this same charge-off but reported it as of 12/31/06. So I called them directly to dispute (under FACT Act) and they immediately informed me I was going to be sued by their attorneys unless I paid. Although I did not agree to pay I said I would consider if they would eliminate everything from my credit report. They said they would have to check into it and get back to me. 2 days later I receive a very stern message to call them by the end of the day. I phoned back and left a voicemail requesting they validate the debt. I am now completely FREAKED OUT because the SOL in Ky is 15 years. So they can in fact sue me. I want to settle this but because of their threatning and coercive tactics I do not want to talk to them until I fully understand how to protect myself. If I acknowledge the debt I'm afraid they will try to tack on interest, lawyer fees, etc. I live in Califonia and can not afford to fly to KY to deal with this if they sue me much less hire an attorney.
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What if they send me mail am I locked into to whatever they request if I open it?
Should I wait for them to contact me in writing and then proceed with request for Validation?
Can they get a judgement against me from a KY judge if they are unable to serve me with a summons? | | | | | | |
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Feb 3, 2007, 05:33 PM
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| Read this post it will help you understand your rights. http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/bankrup...aus-51714.html
Demand that they produce the original contract not a copy the original tis is important they must have it.
Remember no contract, no claim |
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Feb 5, 2007, 10:02 AM
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| Thank you for your response. I have asked verbally for them to validate the debt. I am just unsure if I should wait for them to sue me before requesting validation. Reason being I do not want to engage them any further as it might lead to them building more of a case against me. I have no knowledge of this debt and can not believe what they tell me over the phone. |
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Feb 5, 2007, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 2BInspired Thank you for your response. I have asked verbally for them to validate the debt. I am just unsure if I should wait for them to sue me before requesting validation. Reason being I do not want to engage them any further as it might lead to them building more of a case against me. I have no knowledge of this debt and can not believe what they tell me over the phone. | Excuse me, but in the opening post you seemed to have complete knowledge of this debt, citing the amount and and how long ago you had it. Now you are claiming you don't have any knowledge of it?
You also mentioned something about repairing your credit, yet this reparation seemed to exclude actually paying off a debt you incurred.
Follow the instructions in the thread Mr Yet linked to. Send them a letter stating all future correspondence should be by mail and requesting a copy of the original contract. You will not obligate yourself by opening any mail from them or even accepting certified mail.
Yes they can get a judgement in Ky without your presence. All they have to show is a good faith effort to contact you.
What you should be doing is offering to repay the debt (the $1780 you originally referred to) by offering to settle for the outstanding balance without adding interest and fees. |
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Feb 5, 2007, 10:35 AM
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| Ouch! I charged this debt off 6.5 years ago with an officer from the credit union. In our conversation I made it clear to him that I would not be able to repay the loan or make installments for an undeterminable period of time. He said he understood and charged it off. My understanding was that was it finito. I never got a phone call or a letter from them or collection agency ever again. My understanding was that they took a loss and my credit would be shot for 7 years. Pardon me for being ignorant of the technicalities but honest to God until they said they were going to sue me I was not aware I owed this money. And I am willing to work with them, however, I would like to know how they arrived at this amount I have zero paperwork to support it AND I dont know what other kind of tricks they are going to pull making me even more exposed. I just called the Circuit and Civil courts in KY for the county the loan was originated and they told me the opposite that under the long arm laws a judge will not rule on a summons that is not officially served meaning I have to sign for it or be served in person. |
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Feb 5, 2007, 10:44 AM
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Pay to call ScottGem for advice ($.75/min) | No, YOU didn't charge off the debt, the Credit Union did. Charging off a debt does NOT relieve you of the responsibility to pay it. All it does is allow the creditor to take the debt as a loss for tax purposes. Your understanding was incorrect. Apparently the officer felt the likelihood of collecting at that time and for the forseeable future wasn't worth the effort.
Oh I believe that you were naive enough to think that the debt was discharged, but that was wishful thinking, not actual legal fact. Whether you got correct info from the courts or not, I'm not sure. But it will be too hard for them to serve you. |
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Feb 5, 2007, 11:15 AM
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| Yeah well trust me I understand the law now. Too bad I didn't before I picked up the phone to call them and ask them why they keep listing it on my report. Which is also interesting according to our phone conversation they have not sent this to collections or an attorney in 6.5 years. Yet they list it on my credit report as being in collections/chargeoff dated 12/31/06. |
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Feb 5, 2007, 11:57 AM
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Pay to call ScottGem for advice ($.75/min) | Maybe someone woke up to the fact that your credit was looking better so they figured you now had the money to pay. |
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Feb 5, 2007, 01:48 PM
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| You know that is an excellent point and I you are probably right. But what is ironic I do not have the money to pay. I simply have been very wise about what I've done since falling into financial ruin 6.5 years ago. Also, I just called the creditor to ask to settle and they refused anything other than the full amount of 1800$ They also informed me it has already been turned over to a legal firm and gave me their number. In your expert opinion should I wait for them to contact me or should I contact the attorney to try and settle? Thanks for your advice. |
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Feb 5, 2007, 03:43 PM
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Pay to call ScottGem for advice ($.75/min) | I would wait until you get a summons and start saving your pennies. There are other threads here that discuss what to do if you are actually sued. I suggest you review them.
What's odd is that the legal firm is going to take a chunk out of the whatever is collected (unless they can tack on legal costs). So it would be better for them to settle. |
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