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Old Feb 4, 2009, 05:22 PM
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Do you think there are other worlds like ours?

Im sorry but is there any chance that there are other worlds that sustain life just like ours? (Yeah, maybe not humans but as in life that is as/more intellegent as our own)
It has bothered me for some time and i would like to know some opinions on this theory.

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Old Feb 4, 2009, 05:46 PM   #2  
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It seems very likely.
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Old Feb 4, 2009, 06:02 PM   #3  
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Given the vast numbers of galaxies with vast numbers of stars in them, some percentage of which may have livable planets, certainly there is a chance that there is intelligent life somewhere. Even if it is a small percentage of stars with livable planets, it is a small percentage of an inconceivably large number. So you have the odds working for you that at least one planet has intelligent life..
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Hi, JMF 20!

I also think that there is the likelihood that there is intelligent life somewhere else out there.

Is there a particular reason that you're coming on somewhat apologetic and also seeming to be bothered by not knowing the answer to your question, please?

Thanks!
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Im sorry but is there any chance that there are other worlds that sustain life just like ours? (Yeah, maybe not humans but as in life that is as/more intellegent as our own). It has bothered me for some time and i would like to know some opinions on this theory.
That is what you will get : opinions, and nothing else.
I do not see anywhere any "theory" here. Just a suggestion (or even more a query) about other worlds that sustain life (like ours). I assume you mean intelligent life with that.

With hundreds of Billions of galaxies, with each hundreds of Billions of solar systems, there is good reason to assume that in any of these many thousands x Billion x Billion solar systems there are at least several where planets orbit within the goldilocks zone.

Goldilocks zone : the zone within orbit limits where water is possible to form as a liquid. Water is an essential requirement to allow life (as we know it) to form.

Seen the quantities of solar systems involved, millions of such planets should be around.
With so many potential life-baring planets it would be strange if life would only have developed on planet earth. So we may safely assume that there are millions of planets that carry life.

The much more difficult question is the one about intelligent life.
Earth is around 4,3 Billion years old, and although it took approx. 0,5 Billion years for single celled life to start here, it took another approx. 3 Billion years for single celled life to develop into multi celled life, that allowed through evolution the explosion into all kinds of different lifeforms, which in the end led to life as it is today.

A very important influence for earth in this process was the result of an early collision with another planet or planetisimal that resulted in our out-of-any-proportion big moon, that helped to stabilize the earth rotation angle against the earth orbit path, resulting in stable summers and winters.

Another later influence on earth's climate (essential for the development of "higher" life forms) was the build-up of CO2 reserves in the earth crust instead of the CO2 remaining in the atmosphere, where it would have caused Venus-like conditions due to green house effect and the over-time increasing radiation effects of the sun.

Nobody can guarantee you that there are worlds similar to planet earth, with so much abundant life. Local conditions have too much influence on that, and these planets are most probably far to far away for us to ever find out.

So if you want to hear my "guesstimate" : sure, seen the numbers involved it is highly likely that there are many, many planets that have by now developed intelligent life.

Epiloque :

However : "intelligent life" does not mean INTELLIGENT life. Humanity is destroying it's own habitat in it's insane quest for more and more, fed by personal greed, and at the expense of everyone and anything else. Not very good for the most intelligent species on planet earth !

As to alien intelligent life : I hope that - if they exist - we will never hear from them, because - if they in anyway resemble us (and why should they not?) they could very well be an enormous threat to our own existence.

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elelmhorst : Surprise Surprise, more of the same pseudo-scientific dogma
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Old Feb 8, 2009, 08:02 AM   #6  
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Yeah! There is a big possibility that there are many worlds like us in the Milky Way alone! And think of it this way: let's say there is 5 planets with life in the Milky Way. Now there is BILLIONS of galaxies like the Milky Way in the universe. So 5 times all those possibilities is a quite of a number...

But of course, INTELLIGENT species will be a LOT lower then just plain simply LIFE like bacterias and virus.
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But of course, INTELLIGENT species will be a LOT lower then just plain simply LIFE like bacterias and virus.
Yes. And just being intelligent is no indication of wisdom and a positive attitude.

Reason the more to repeat my previous Epiloque :

However : "intelligent life" does not mean INTELLIGENT life (style). Humanity is destroying it's own habitat in it's insane quest for more and more, fed by personal greed, and at the expense of everyone and anything else.
Not very good for the most intelligent species on planet earth !

As to alien intelligent life : I hope that - if they exist - we will never hear from them, because - if they in anyway resemble us in attitude (and why should they not?) they could very well be an enormous threat to our own existence.
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Yes, did you know that there was a theory saying that a long time ago, there were a whole bunch of civilizations. But as it grows and advances, it was engaged in battles and wars. Soon, the whole civilization was destroyed, by it's own inhabitants. So they say that, maybe we might be able to find ruins of those civilizations...
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As I stated in previous posts : first there is the idea/suggestion, which may develop into a thesis, and with lot's of research and support in the end may become a scientific theory.
So there is no theory on whole bunches of early civilizations.
Note that this is a science board, not a philosophy or science fiction/fantasy board.

There may be many suggestions about 'long time ago civilizations'.
The oldest we know about are those of the Inca's, the Chinese and other Eastern, the Mediteranean, and the early African civilizations. That is up to approx. 10.000 years ago.
There may have been earlier important civilizations, but no ruins of such possible older civilizations have ever been found, so they are more in the realm of science fantasy.

And even if there were, they do not have anything to do with the topic, that is about alien worlds.
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A relevant article. BBC NEWS | Science & Environment | Number of alien worlds quantified
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