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Chris Petinaud
Dec 11, 2006, 11:48 AM
My fiancée and I are planning out our honeymoon, but recent media articles have put a damper on these plans. We've read that in January 2007, all American citizens traveling throughout the Caribbean, and Mexico must be in possession of a U.S. passport. This even applies to simple border crossings. Unfortunately, this has forced me to revisit my status as a convicted felon once again. Will I be able to obtain a passport?

aduckart
Dec 11, 2006, 12:44 PM
What you will want to do is become very familiar with all of the information on the US Department of Travel Passport site (http://travel.state.gov/passport/passport_1738.html). My husband and I are going to Australia/Fiji in April for our honeymoon and we also had to do some major research on the subject.

I'm unsure about the details about a convicted felony but this is the information from the site about the specific passport requirements come January 2007 and January 2008. Please note the highlighted:

Beginning January 23, 2007, ALL persons, including U.S. citizens, traveling by air between the United States and Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribbean, and Bermuda will be required to present a valid passport, Air NEXUS card, or U.S. Coast Guard Merchant Mariner Document, or an Alien Registration Card, Form I-551, if applicable.

As early as January 1, 2008, ALL persons, including U.S. citizens, traveling between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribbean, and Bermuda by land or sea (including ferries), may be required to present a valid passport or other documents as determined by the Department of Homeland Security. While recent legislative changes permit a later deadline, the Departments of State and Homeland Security are working to meet all requirements as soon as possible. Ample advance notice will be provided to enable the public to obtain passports or passport cards for land/sea entries.

Again, please read the site as you'll save yourself a lot of headaches (missing information or what not) and good luck! Have fun on your honeymoon and congratulations! :)

excon
Dec 16, 2006, 08:06 AM
Hello again, Chris:

Dude! What am I chopped liver?? If I wasn't cruising around, I would have never seen your question.

Here's the answer. I'm a convicted felon. BOY, am I a convicted felon, and I have a passport! IF you haven't been convicted of terrorisim, there is no law that prevents you from obtaining a passport. You're an American citizen and you have a right to one, just like any other American.

Here's the clincher. Apply. Pay your $90 or $120 bucks (I don't remember), and wait by the mailbox. It'll come. I promise. If it doesn't, let me know, and we'll go kick come State Department butt.

excon

Chris Petinaud
Dec 18, 2006, 05:55 AM
Thanks Bro. That really takes a load off the shoulders. Sounds like I could learn a lot from you. I'm assuming that you are familiar with my "obstacle", so I'll just ask you. How the heck did you rise above the mistakes of your' past, and regain forward momentum with your' life?

excon
Dec 18, 2006, 06:30 AM
How the heck did you rise above the mistakes of your' past, and regain foward momentum with your' life?
Hello again, Chris:

And, what makes you think I've risen above anything (he writes from his lonely cell on death row - where they allow him internet access)... Nahh, just kidding.

Look. I'm no better than you. I've had plenty of people out in the free world look at me with disdain. I got awfully tired of asking people for something, a visit, a better cell, a parole, an apartment, a job, a damn license for driving a lousy taxi cab, for crying out loud.

The person in the taxi department of the state thought I was the lowest of the low. But then decided, because he was so benevolent, to grant me one wish... I wonder what would have happened if wanted a job as a street cleaner...

So, I decided, that I'm not going to ASK for ANYTHING. Just like I don't suggest that you ASK for a passport. Demand it - don't ask.

Yes, that position limits me. But it also opens up opportunities. I'm self employed in a field that doesn't require licensing from ANYBODY.

Next. You're not a crook. You're a druggie. There's a BIG difference. The drug business is the most honorable business I know. Take those concepts into the legal business world, and you'll make a fortune.

excon

exdetroit
Jan 15, 2007, 02:50 PM
I am in the same predicament! I am really scared, and once again embarrassed by my past. I know that Canada turns felons away, but I have no idea of anywhere else. I don't want to waste the money if I cant get a passport. Has anyone successfully traveled with a passport since a conviction, or applied or renewed a passport for that matter?

excon
Jan 15, 2007, 03:26 PM
Hello again, Chris:

Here's the answer. I'm a convicted felon. BOY, am I a convicted felon, and I have a passport! IF you haven't been convicted of terrorisim, there is no law that prevents you from obtaining a passport. You're an American citizen and you have a right to one, just like any other American.

Here's the clincher. Apply. Pay your $90 or $120 bucks (I don't remember), and wait by the mailbox. It'll come. I promise. If it doesn't, lemme know, and we'll go kick come State Department butt.

exconHello detroit:

Like I said above.

excon

CellerDoor
Dec 17, 2007, 06:29 PM
Thanks Bro. That really takes a load off of the shoulders. Sounds like I could learn a lot from you. I'm assuming that you are familiar with my "obstacle", so I'll just ask you. How the heck did you rise above the mistakes of your' past, and regain foward momentum with your' life?
Chris:
You overcome it by knowing yourself, and not allowing those a$$wipes to define you. The biggest problem I had to overcome was the idea that I COULD strive for better. That I wasn't just an ex-con but a regular guy who Fu(kd Up! All they teach when you are in prison, if you use any of the programs available is that hoping to get a job as a manager isn’t realistic, because you are scum (paraphrasing of course). They use words like realistic and rehabilitation, when really they want you to be programmed to be punishing yourself so they don’t have to. I have issues of course, but the thing I can say, the one thing that got me through this was decision to redefine myself –
From: Inmate/Convict/Felon/Resident/DOCNumber|
To: HardWorker/Thinker/Husband/Father.
It gets tough, there will be times when the temptation will be huge, but the benefits in the end are worth it. At one time I was working at a job, my girlfriend was pregnant (she was bedridden), and wham they discovered my conviction and I was fired on the spot and black balled from most of the work in the area (this was while I was in Tucson AZ). It was tough, I ended up moving out of there to California once my daughter was born. We lived in the back room of one of our friends for almost a year, working temporary work until I worked my way up into a full time job (3 years), and I’ve been at that job for over 7 years now.
I guess what it comes down to, is that you can live up to what is expected of you, or make your own expectations and live up to them.

Have a good one.

steelo72
Jan 2, 2008, 01:18 PM
Chris:
....... I have issues of course, but the thing I can say, the one thing that got me through this was decision to redefine myself –
From: Inmate/Convict/Felon/Resident/DOCNumber|
To: HardWorker/Thinker/Husband/Father.
It gets tough, there will be times when the temptation will be huge, but the benefits in the end are worth it. ......I guess what it comes down to, is that you can live up to what is expected of you, or make your own expectations and live up to them.

Have a good one.

HE'S RIGHT!!

To all ex felons trying to do better: They will continue to kick you as long as you allow them. If your sentence has been served then it's up to YOU to ut the past behind you and shrug off the ignorance in our society that says you're scum. Martha Stewart had a television show and her company stock has risen since her release. Yeah, she's rich but we all have an opportunity to improve ourselves and HELL YES it's going to be hard. Best wishes to all of you in 2008 and I pray that God allows you to prosper beyond measure!

jimstewa1
Jan 18, 2008, 08:15 AM
I am a convicted felon a 3rd degree drug trafficking charge and I just received my passport in November took about 45 days, I went on a cruise and went to jamaica and the caymon islands. All they did was look at passport nothing was ever said.

jimstewa1
Jan 18, 2008, 08:18 AM
The us will give you a passport but not all countries welcome convicted felons, like canada australia just check before you travel.

crjslick50
Apr 18, 2008, 05:48 PM
A felony conviction will not stop you from getting a passport, I got mine 2007 2 months out of the pen.

will1265
Aug 4, 2008, 07:38 PM
Many countries do not allowed felons to enter passport or not. Canada is one for sure. Here is a link to the Official Visa web site that will allow you to click on each country and check their requirements
Visa Services (http://www.americanpassport.com/Visa_Services.html)

cajoler
Aug 20, 2008, 05:51 AM
It is no problem I have a felony conviction and got my passport with no problem. If you want to travel to europe land at shipol airport in the netherlands you can cruise anywhere from there. YOu'll find Amsterdam to be Very laid back Don't worry about your felony.

cajoler
Aug 20, 2008, 05:57 AM
It is no problem. It is your right to have a passport if you want one. Nowhere on the form are you asked if you have been convicted of a felony, so don't worry about it. Go have a good time. Try Amsterdam!

JudyKayTee
Aug 20, 2008, 06:33 AM
It is no problem. It is your right to have a passport if you want one. Nowhere on the form are you asked if you have been convicted of a felony, so don't worry about it. Go have a good time. Try Amsterdam!!


US grants passports to felons - no problem. US doesn't care if you leave. Other countries care if felons enter so a visa can be a problem.

will1265
Aug 20, 2008, 08:23 AM
Yes, passport are no problem however, three things
#1, big difference between passport and visa, some countries also require a visa for US citizens and those who do are not likely to let you in
#2 Some Countries such as Canada do not allow US citizens convicted of felonies to enter without a long review process
#3 Even with a passport, if you are a felon, you are more likely to be detained for further review upon re-entry into the US.

cajoler
Aug 21, 2008, 09:50 AM
Most countries do not ask for police reports when you apply for a non-immigrant visa. In other words most places don't ask.
Use a passport/visa expediting service when applying for a nonimmigrant visa. You'll get your visa
Canada won't allow you in if you have had a DUI. Real hosers there eh!
All 27 EU countries do not require a visa. You can travel country to country just like going state to state in the USA.
England is strange and can be hard assed if they don't like they way you look however if you land at schipol international airport outside of Amsterdam Netherlands there will be no problem.
Once you are through customs/passport control you can go anywhere in europe without a problem as long as you go by car bus train hitchinke bicycle walk.
Once you land in europe and go through the airport it will usually be the last time anyone looks at your passport except at hotels and did you know you can make a copy of your passport for them to hold so you do not have to give up your original one.
Most of Africa except for South africa requires a visa
Most if not all of the middle east requires a passport
Most of asia does. Japan does not
Most of South America does not require a visa to visit
Most of central america does not require a visa to visit
Who cares if you might be stopped for more questioning when coming back to the U.S. You are still a citizen and they have to let you in. Just don't try to smuggle

cajoler
Aug 21, 2008, 09:52 AM
Sorry about that it should read
Most if not all of the middle east requires a visa
Most of asia does also. Japan does not

JudyKayTee
Aug 21, 2008, 09:58 AM
Canada won't allow you in if you have had a DUI. real hosers there eh!



At the moment Canada will not allow any felons into Canada - doesn't have to be felony DUI. Depends on whether the felony is in their computer system.

JudyKayTee
Aug 21, 2008, 10:01 AM
Most of South America does not require a visa to visit
Most of central america does not require a visa to visit


I thought Countries in South America DO require a visa if you are a visitor/tourist staying for fewer than 30 days (in some countries, 90 days) and it's an almost-automatic visa when you enter.

No problem getting one but you have to have one -

Or has that changed?

mackdan2001
Sep 11, 2008, 08:32 AM
So if you are a convicted felon you can't even go to visit places like canada or australia for a week or two at a time? Or is it that they won't allow you if you are trying to stay there long term?

JudyKayTee
Sep 11, 2008, 08:34 AM
so if you are a convicted felon you can't even go to visit places like canada or australia for a week or two at a time? Or is it that they won't allow you if you are trying to stay there long term?


People with felony records cannot enter Canada at this time. Canadian Customs/Immigration can turn you around, deport you, in some cases hold your car, IF they run you through the computer and locate your record.

I don't know about Australia.

This is why I recommend that you check with wherever you are visiting FIRST, before you begin your trip, rather than showing up and being denied entry, automatic visa or not.

mackdan2001
Sep 11, 2008, 08:46 AM
What about cruises right now? We called and they don't require a passport until June 1 2009 if you are traveling by sea to places like mexico and the bahamas. Are they going to do some type of record search when you get ready to get on the cruise boat or when you dock at your port? Sorry so many questions, just curious because we are thinkig of taking a cruise in October.

My husband has a felony on his record, but he took the one felony instead of 2 misdemeanors, because his lawyer said he could get it reduced to a misdemeanor instead. It is in that process right now, however until then the felony is still on his record..

cajoler
Sep 11, 2008, 12:14 PM
It is no problem , you will not be asked anywhere for that kind of information

theshores
Sep 19, 2008, 05:33 PM
I have been doing a lot of research on this and see that passports are available to felons. However, I wanted to ask those that said they had traveled to the caribbean how did the trip go?? How were you treated in the U.S. when u returned? I've tried to research Jamaica to see if they have restrictions on letting felons into the country and have not found anything that says they don't allow it. Does anyone with a record know for sure? Planning a June trip to the Caribbean...

relentlesstech
Oct 5, 2008, 06:20 AM
I was convicted of felony credit card fraud in 1992, and was able to get my passport right after, BUT could not leave the country until 1998, when I went to Amsterdam - And because I was a convicted felon, Customs had a field day with me - So, you CAN travel, as a felon, as long as you have the passport, but don't be surprised to get hassled a bit more than normal...

C-O-P
Nov 12, 2008, 09:34 AM
Hey, relentless - please tell me about how you were treated when you came back and especially how they know that you were a convicted felon. I am on parole now and considering trying to go and come to a non0visa requiring country. I really am interested to hear about what they knew and how they knew it about you. Thanks.

deepseadvr
Nov 28, 2008, 09:11 AM
If you have been convicted of a felony and you are on parole you cannot have a passport. Once you have completed your obligation you can get a passport. You also get your right to vote back. You basically get your citizenship back but with a black eye and you cannot own or possess a firearm. So yes, you are free to travel. I had two felonies and I have a passport and have been able to travel to Europe and Asia as well as the Caribbean and Mexico. I have never been hassled or singled out so maybe it is just the way you present yourself. If you look and act like a felon... you will be treated accordingly.

C-O-P
Nov 28, 2008, 09:46 AM
a. being on parole does NOT disqualify you from getting a passport. It is not even one of the things they check for at DoS. Also, you can vote in many states as soon as you are no longer incarcerated. As for firearms, you have to petition - usually after 5 years. I know about both the passport and voting from personal experience - I got one and have voted. I have done both while on parole.