Ask Experts Questions for FREE Help!
 

Free Answers in 3 Easy Steps

Register Now
3 Steps
 


Ask QuestionsprogressAnswer QuestionsprogressBuild ReputationprogressBecome an Expert
 
At Ask Me Help Desk you can ask questions in any topic and have them answered for free by our experts. To ask questions or participate in answering them you must register for a free account. By registering you will be able to:
  • Get free answers from experts in any of our 300+ topics.
  • Accept money for answers that you provide.
  • Communicate privately with other members (PM).
  • See fewer ads.
  Answer this Question    Ask about Accounting    Ask about another Subject  
 

Mrsglass34
Sep 16, 2009, 09:16 PM
I am having trouble grasping this concept.

This is a sample problem that I have been trying to work before doing my real homework assignment, and I can not figure out.

There is another posting with the same problem listed however the solution that was posted does not match the answer in the book so it just further confuses me.


Cash 5850 (debit)
Accounts Receivable 2750 (credit)
Prepaid Insurance 700 (debit)
Equipment 8000 (Debit)
Accounts Payable 4500 (credit)
Property Taxes Payable 560 (debit)
M. Sterling, Capital 11,700 (credit)
Service Revunue 6690 (debit)
Salaries Expense 4200 (debit)
Advertising Expense 1100 (credit)
Property Tax Expense 800 (debit)


1. The totals of the debit sides of Prepaid Insurance, Accounts Payable, and Property Tax Expense were each understated $100.

2. Transposition errors were made in Accounts Receivable and Service Revenue. Based on posting made, the correct balances were $2570 and $6960, respectively.

3. A debit posting to Salaries Expense of $200 was omitted.

4. A $1000 cash drawing by the owner was debited to M. Sterling, Capital for $1000, and credited to cash for $1000.

5. A $520 purchase of supplies on account was debited to Equipment for $520 and credited to Cash for $520.

6. A cash payment $450 for advertising was debited to Advertising Expense for $45 and credited to cash for $45.

7. A collection from a customer for $210 was debited to Cash for $210 and credited to Accounts Payable for $210.

Please explain how to work this correctly. Thanks.

morgaine300
Sep 16, 2009, 10:25 PM
I assume you're referring to this thread:
http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/finance-accounting/correcting-trial-balance-cannot-figure-out-332497.html

You're right that the answers aren't correct. The total of 24,410 that Pready gave in the last post is correct, but I cannot open the Excel file to check the answers.

Post #3 shows most of what to do, except that 4 & 5 are only partially correct. It also gives no explanation of why, which likely isn't going to help you figure out your homework.

Even if this isn't an assigned homework problem, it's always better if you show us your attempts at trying to do it and then let us see how on track you are and give hints from there. IOW, make sure you're doing most of the work yourself. What I will do is give you a sample of how to figure these out. Some of them are tricky so think carefully.

For instance, since prepaid insurance and property tax expense are debit accounts, the debit side being understated by $100 simply means you need to add in $100 to each of those.

The payable is a bit trickier because it's a credit account. What does a debit do that account? So if you debited too little (understated), what affect does that have? If that doesn't make sense, draw a t account. Put in some totals for the debit and credit side, making sure the credit side is bigger, and then balance the account. (Doesn't matter what the numbers are.) Then think about that the debit side was understated by $100. If it's understated, you need another debit. So put in another $100 debit. Now re-balance and observe what happens to the balance. What you just observed is how you need to change it.

You can utilize t accounts for any of this if the visual helps.

If something goes into the wrong account, subtract it from that account and add it to the correct account.

If something is in the incorrect dollar amount, you can always figure out the difference. But one easier way is to subtract out the incorrect dollar amount and then add in the correct amount.

See how much you can do with this. Some of the correct stuff is in the other post, but you can always ask if you don't understand why something was done. (Remember 4 & 5 are only partially correct.)

Mrsglass34
Sep 17, 2009, 10:57 AM
I have worked this problem at least six times and still don't totally get it.

This is what I have done:

1. Added 100 to Prepaid Insurance and Property Tax Expense, subtracted 100 from A/P.
2. Fixed Transposition
3. Added 200 to Salary Expense.
4. Added Drawings Account and debited 1000. Subtracted 1000 from Capital.
5. Debited Supplies 520, Subtracted 520 from cash and equipment, and added 520 to A/P.
6. I don't understand this one
7. I am not sure about this one either.

pready
Sep 17, 2009, 02:17 PM
I have attached the completed worksheet in Excel 97-2003 format.
Click on each Cell to see where the numbers came from. for example in cash column B3 I started with the beginning Cash amount, then I had one addition and one subtraction.

pready
Sep 17, 2009, 02:25 PM
#4. You need to add the $1,000 back into the capital account, not subtract it.

#6. The original post was for $45, so you need to add $405 to Advertising expense and subtract an additional $405 from cash to get to the correct amount of $450.

#7. This was a payment that was received from a customer, so you need to Debit the Accounts Payable account to reverse the entry and Credit Accounts receivable for the amount because you are reducing what is owed to you.

morgaine300
Sep 17, 2009, 11:01 PM
OK, pready and I have both screwed this up. Doesn't that just give you lots of confidence?:p These things can be a bit confusing.

What I screwed up was missing the "on account" on #5. And missing that is how I ended up with 24,410 totals.

But those totals are also what pready has, which is not correct. For a different reason. It's amazing that we made two different errors and ended up with the same total! pready, you've taken the 520 out of receivables instead of adding it to payables. In the original post you said it right, but didn't do on the Excel file what you said.

The reason #4 is an addition is because it was debited by mistake. A debit to the capital account is a reduction of that account. So you have to add it back in.

And on #5 you don't want to subtract from cash. You're messing up the "backwards" ones. I think you're just subtracting everything that's a wrong account, and not paying attention to whether it was debited or credited. If it was credited to cash, that's a subtraction. Again, you have to add it back in.

Don't just remove a wrong account by subtracting from it. If the wrong account was a subtraction, then you're adding back in. That's what is messing you up on those.

The totals should be 24,930.