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wuli
Mar 2, 2009, 10:20 AM
Hi All,

I have a few questions,

Here is my situation:

I am a J-1 Student and my wife is a J-2 dependent.
We arrived Aug 2004 - so we "used" 4 years of the non-residence, HOWEVER, i was a j-2 dependent in 1988 so from what cintax (foreign tax software) says that if i have 5 years including past years i am a resident for tax purposes.

Here are my questions:
1. Is it true that if i was on J-2 20 years ago, these years also count toward the 5 years?

2. If I file as a resident - can i file jointly with my wife. even though she only has 4 years?

3. We are PA residents, am i a resident for tax purposes in PA also, or can i still be a non-resident for PA?

Thanks!!

MukatA
Mar 2, 2009, 06:29 PM
1. No it does not count as you were not present as teacher, trainee or student.
2. When did your J1 begin?
3. You are resident of PA.

wuli
Mar 3, 2009, 06:16 AM
Thanks MukatA,

1. cintax says with confidence (which doesn't mean that they are right) that because i was as a dependent J-2 (of a scholar) for a full year in the past, it takes a year off the exemption. When i talked with the IRS helpline they read me the paragraph which can be understood in both ways. I also saw a different place that does say to count previous J's...

2. My J-1 began Aug 04.

3. I have seen in a few places for instance the Upenn link (http://www.upenn.edu/oip/iss/tax/index.html) that says that full time students in PA are non residents.

Thanks again!

IntlTax
Mar 3, 2009, 06:33 AM
1. You do count the J-2 from 20 years ago. A "student" includes the individual student and that individual's immediate family. See Treas. Reg. § 301.7701-3((b)(4).

2. Yes, you can file jointly with your wife.

3. I don't know.

wuli
Mar 3, 2009, 09:01 AM
Wow, great - Thanks IntlTax.

Do you maybe have a link to this Treas. Reg. section?

I guess this means that i can get the stimulus rebate this year, etc.

Is it true that if my university (by mistake) exempt 3000$ because of the treaty (i have a 1042-S) with my country then it will balance out when I do the taxes (i.e., trubo tax will see that i did not pay enough taxes and will readjust)?

What do I need to do about social security taxes

thanks again!

AtlantaTaxExpert
Apr 28, 2009, 09:48 AM
Your liability for Social Security and Medicare taxes begins on 1 January of the THIRD calendar year in country on your J-1 visa.

That means you should have been paying FICA (Social Security and Medicare) taxes starting on 1 January 2006.

wuli
Apr 28, 2009, 10:01 AM
Your liability for Social Security and Medicare taxes begins on 1 January of the THIRD calendar year in country on your J-1 visa.

That means you should have been paying FICA (Social Security and Medicare) taxes starting on 1 January 2006.

Even if i am a student J-1, not a professional J-1?

second, i thought FICA was not related to the residency status, and if I am only as a intentional student i don't need to pay it.

Thanks!

AtlantaTaxExpert
Jun 12, 2009, 11:55 AM
If you are a student, then the FICA liability starts at the beginning of the sixth calendar year (just like F-1 students).