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samantha42776
Jan 3, 2009, 05:19 AM
:(I was told by my boss that I could be fired for witinessing to others is this legal

excon
Jan 3, 2009, 05:22 AM
Hello sam:

If you don't have an employment contract, or you are not a member of a union, you can be fired for ANYTHING.

I'd keep my religion OUT of the workplace.

excon

vexation
Jan 3, 2009, 05:27 AM
Hello
I am not sure of the company policy but if you are witinessing wrong doing then there is a small chance that you could be considered as being part of it
In my option your boss is looking for a rat so be very careful - you do not wish to be used .
If you are a witiness to wrong doing then my advise is to be somewhere else
Do your job and mind your own business
The old saying is
Heard nothing see nothing and say nothing

JudyKayTee
Jan 3, 2009, 06:18 AM
Hello
I am not sure of the company policy but if you are witinessing wrong doing then there is a small chance that you could be considered as being part of it
In my option your boss is looking for a rat so be very careful - you do not wish to be used .
If you are a witiness to wrong doing then my advise is to be somewhere else
do your job and mind your own business
the old saying is
heard nothing see nothing and say nothing



My guess would be that his "witnessing" involves religion - and, yes, you can be terminated (as Excon said) at will and "witnessing" can be both disruptive and annoying in the workplace.

this8384
Jan 6, 2009, 08:51 AM
Yes, you can be fired and I'd like to include a ridiculous story about this matter.

I know someone who waits tables at a very popular restaurant in this area. A customer(not sure of his religion, just know he was wearing a turban) complained to management because she was wearing a cross necklace; he said it "offended" him. This was the first complaint she ever had against her. He told the manager that he wanted my friend to remove her "offensive" necklace so my friend told him to take off his turban. He had the audacity to say, "I'm not taking off my turban; this is a symbol of my religion!"

Guess you can't win 'em all...

ScottGem
Jan 6, 2009, 08:55 AM
:(i was told by my boss that i could be fired for witinessing to others is this legal

As you can see from your responses you need to define what you mean by "witnessing". If you are referring to Jehovah's Witnesses and are proseltyzing in the workplace, that could be grounds for termination. If you are referring to something else, please explain.

this8384
Jan 6, 2009, 08:57 AM
As you can see from your responses you need to define what you mean by "witnessing". If you are referring to Jehovah's Witnesses and are proseltyzing in the workplace, that could be grounds for termination. If you are referring to something else, please explain.

I take "witnessing" to mean proclaiming her faith or religion. But I've been wrong in the past :)

JudyKayTee
Jan 6, 2009, 10:33 AM
Yes, you can be fired and I'd like to include a ridiculous story about this matter.

I know someone who waits tables at a very popular restaurant in this area. A customer(not sure of his religion, just know he was wearing a turban) complained to management because she was wearing a cross necklace; he said it "offended" him. This was the first complaint she ever had against her. He told the manager that he wanted my friend to remove her "offensive" necklace so my friend told him to take off his turban. He had the audacity to say, "I'm not taking off my turban; this is a symbol of my religion!"

Guess you can't win 'em all...



- Just when I think I've heard everything!

runny3mede
Jan 15, 2009, 11:21 PM
Yes you can. As some people may consider "witnessing" to be harassment. For example, if I am not interested in your message yet you continue to talk to me about it I could complain that you are harassing me. Workplace harassment is against the law.

Keep your religion out of the workplace unless you know for sure that it is a topic that like minded people want to discuss.

JudyKayTee
Jan 16, 2009, 06:45 AM
Yes you can. As some people may consider "witnessing" to be harrassment. For example, if I am not interested in your message yet you continue to talk to me about it I could complain that you are harrassing me. Workplace harrassment is against the law.

Keep your religion out of the workplace unless you know for sure that it is a topic that like minded people want to discuss.



This also goes for relatives at family functions. If I want to know, I'll ask!

stevetcg
Jan 16, 2009, 06:47 AM
This also goes for relatives at family functions. If I want to know, I'll ask!

Too bad relatives cannot be fired.

Well... not in the legal sense anyway. There IS a trick with some lighter fluid and the bbq grill... ;)

Fr_Chuck
Jan 16, 2009, 06:55 AM
Talking to others about your religion can be againt many company policies. You need to check with your HR department. You can not be fired because of your religion, but you can be fired in many places for bother others, you are making it a hostile work environment where they do not feel OK.

In some places any wearing of any religious symblol is not allowed, I have worked at a few.

Now this would and has to include all religions, they can not just deny one faith. ( unless it is a religious group, i.e. you work for a catholic school, obvioiusly you would have restrictions)

But if you work for corporate america, you can live your faith, if they are talking about going to the bar on Saturday night, you can talk about going to church on Saturday night.
But you will need to be sure and watch to not cross a line.

Now some companies are very religious, I know a car dealership that has christian tracts everywhere in their dealership.

The company I work for, over chirstmas put out some DVD about the story of Jesus for any customer that may want one, but they were just there, no one mentioned them unless someone asked about them.

runny3mede
Jan 16, 2009, 07:40 PM
I was thinking about this more and I think that potentially two policies could be in play here. The first being harassment, as mentioned before. The second being solicitation. Most companies have policies against soliciting. For example, many companies do not allow you to post a notice in a common area to try to sell your bike. Many companies have do not allow employees to sell girl guide cookies and such. I think it's important to ask your boss which policy you are violating. If he says harassment then you should stop immediately. Whether you realize it or not you are upsetting your coworkers and that is not a good thing to do. If s/he says solicitation then many associates get around this policy by being less overt. For example, people will put a few boxes of cookies on their desk with a little price note inside. They never asked anyone to buy anything so it's not technically solicitation. By the same degree, drop a few WatchTower magazines on your desk and if people are interested they'll ask to have a look. If they aren't interested then no harm is done.

ScottGem
Jan 17, 2009, 06:31 AM
OK, the OP has not returned since she posted this question, not even to read the answers. So we don't know exactly what "witnessing" means or whether this has helped her. So I think enough responses have been made until she does return.

excon
Jan 17, 2009, 06:38 AM
the OP has not returned since she posted this question, not even to read the answers.Hello again, Scott:

Doncha hate it when that happens?

excon

Fr_Chuck
Jan 17, 2009, 06:56 AM
Thread closed, if the OP comes back, we can either reopen or continue on a new thread