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Leanne1975
Jan 27, 2006, 07:11 AM
Last summer my entire family got stung by wasps. There was about 10 different nests under the railing of our large deck. The most problemsome was the nests near the gates that connected the deck to the pool area. We tried sprays of all kinds then just resorted to avoiding the main gate, but this is not something we don't want to worry about this summer! Plus finding out there's a nest accidentally HURTS!! Lol.

Any way to make it less appealing for them to nest again this year? I know it will be hard since a pool is involved, and a grill, and kids who drop food and spill drinks lol. Last summer was the first year we had a major problem with them also. Should I go and destroy all the old nests now when it's freezing outside? (and I ASSUME they are paper wasps or yellowjackets.. if there's a difference... because of the way we were all stung. Me, just coming in from testing the pool.. gate slammed shut, I got stung... so they were easily irritated)

lilfyre
Jan 27, 2006, 07:30 AM
We went round and round with wasp for ever, I would spray them, and they always came back, the last two years, I have given up on spraying. It is time consuming but I had gotten stung one too many times in my yard. I love to be outside in the spring summer and fall, I have a huge yard and large flower gardens, my summer past time is to watch our humming birds, it always seemed that when we sat out we got stung, the picnic table, lawn chairs, grills, you name it they where in it. My daughter, 11 at the time got nailed so bad I thought we where going to the hospital by the wasps. She was the one that came up with the wasp patrol, and that is just what it is. We get up on Sundays, and sit in the yard and kind of watch the goings on, there is always a large concentration of the near the hummy feeders, as we sat and watched you could see them hanging out in certain spots. They were the first checked. If there was something there we would remove it. It is easier to remove one building a nest then one already established. After taking care of the spot we seen them in we would search any spot that we thought they might build. After a while we got used to the building spots. Last summer we only got nailed one time and that was because I sat on one hear the hummy feeder, and that was just plain stupidly on my part.

Fr_Chuck
Jan 27, 2006, 08:10 AM
From state of MN dept of Ag web site

http://www.extension.umn.edu/distribution/horticulture/DG3732.html


Wasp and Bee Stings
Wasps and bees sting to defend themselves or their colony. Stinging involves the injection of a protein venom that causes pain and other reactions.

Wasps and bumble bees can sting more than once because they are able to pull out their stinger without injury to themselves. If you are stung by a wasp or bumble bee, the stinger is not left in your skin.

Honey bees have barbs on their stinger which remain hooked in the skin. The stinger, which is connected to the digestive system of the bee, is torn out of the abdomen as the bee attempts to fly away. As a result, the bee soon dies. If you are stung by a honey bee, scratch out the stinger (with its attached venom gland) with your fingernail as soon as possible. Do not try to pull out the stinger between two fingers. Doing so only forces more venom into your skin, causing greater irritation.

Most people have only local reactions to wasp and bee stings, although a few may experience more serious allergic reactions. Local, nonallergic reactions range from burning, itching, redness, and tenderness to massive swelling and itching that may last up to a week. These local reactions can be treated with ice, vinegar, honey, meat tenderizer, or commercial topical ointment to relieve the itching. An allergic reaction may include hives or rash, swelling away from the sting site, headache, minor respiratory symptoms, and stomach upset. These allergic reactions are not life-threatening and can be readily treated with an antihistamine.

Very rarely, a person may suffer a life-threatening, systemic allergic reaction to a bee or wasp sting, which can cause anaphylactic shock (fainting, difficulty breathing, swelling, and blockage in the throat) within minutes of being stung. These systemic symptoms are cause for immediate medical attention. People with known systemic allergic reactions to bee or wasp stings should consult with their physician to obtain an Epi-PenTM or Ana-Guard Sting KitTM to carry with them at all times. The venoms of bees and wasps are different, so having a severe reaction to a wasp sting does not mean a person will have the same reaction to a bee sting.

Control of Nests
The first step in wasp or bee control is to correctly identify the insect and locate its nesting site. An experienced pest control service may provide wasp or bee control service or you can use the following information to attempt to control them yourself.

Wasps
The best time of the year to control wasps is in June after the queen has established her colony and while the colony is still small. But because nests are small, they are also harder to find. The best time of the day to control wasp nests is at night, when they are less active. At temperatures below 50 F, wasps have difficulty flying. Never seal a wasp nest until you are sure there are no surviving wasps inside. If a nest is not discovered until fall, control may be unnecessary as imminent freezing temperatures will kill the colony.


Fig. 7 Paper wasp nest
(Courtesy Roger Akre) Fig. 8 Baldfaced hornet nest

Exposed wasp nests (Figs.7, 8)
Wasp nests that are visible but are not near your home or areas of human activity do not need to be treated. If they are not disturbed, the wasps won't bother you.

Nests that are near human activity can pose a potential problem. If there is a concern about stings, you should eradicate the nest.

Apply a ready-to-use aerosol "wasp and hornet spray" into the entrance of the nest during late evening according to label directions. If no activity is observed the next day, the nest has been successfully exterminated. If live wasps are still observed, repeat the treatment at three-day intervals until they are all dead.

Mechanical control without insecticides is possible for small, exposed nests. At night, cover the nest with a large, heavy, plastic bag and seal it shut. Cut the nest from the tree and freeze it or let the bag sit in the sun, which will kill the wasps inside in a day or two. Use caution: there is more risk involved in this procedure than in spraying the nest.


Fig. 6 Cutaway view of underground yellowjacket nest
(Courtesy Arthur Antonelli, Washington State University) Fig. 9 Yellowjacket nest in lawn

Ground wasp nests (Figs. 6, 9)
When yellowjackets are found nesting in the ground, first try pouring a soap and water solution into the entrance. Many types of soap will work, including dish and laundry soap.

If that doesn't work, apply an insecticide into the nest opening. Be sure you use a product that is cleared for use in lawns or soil. Dusts are more effective than liquid insecticides because liquids do not always reach the nest. After you are sure all the wasps have been exterminated, cover the nest entrance with soil.

When treating ground-dwelling wasp nests, use one of the following insecticides: *
Carbaryl (e.g. Sevin) as a dust
Chlorpyrifos (e.g. Dursban) as a dust
Carbaryl (e.g. Sevin) as a liquid concentrate
Acephate (e.g. Orthene) as a liquid concentrate
Diazinon as a liquid concentrate



A - New colony just starting between the studding.

B - Long established colony between the studding.

C - Colony between the ceiling joists.

D - Colony in the attic.

Possible points of entrance.
Fig. 10 Possible wasp nesting sites in a home

Concealed wasp nests (Fig.10)
The most challenging nests to control are those that are concealed in voids behind walls or in attics. Often, the only evidence of the nest is wasps flying back and forth through a crack or hole in the home.

Aerosol insecticides usually do not work very well against hidden nests. The best method is to apply a small amount of insecticidal dust (dusts are less commonly available in stores than aerosols; be sure any dust you plan to use is labelled for use in homes). You may need to drill small (about 1/8 inch) holes to deliver the insecticide into the nest area. If the product you are using does not have a built-in applicator, you can use a plastic container with a tube tip or spout, such as an empty liquid detergent bottle, to "puff" the product into the void.

When treating wasp nests hidden in building voids, use one of the following insecticide dusts: *
Bendiocarb
Chlorpyrifos
Boric acid (will be slow acting)
If you would rather hire someone experienced to exterminate a wasp nest, talk to a reliable pest control service.

Concealed nests that are treated in the fall may force wasps into the home. If there is no immediate danger, it may be best to wait until freezing temperatures kill the nest. Do not seal the nest entrance until you are sure all wasps are dead. Closing the nest too early can force survivors into your home. When the wasps are dead, seal the entrance with caulk or something similar to prevent a new wasp queen from using the same entrance to build a new nest next year.