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All women are naturally bisexual.... whether they choose to admit it or not
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Originally Posted by DrJizzle
good stats.... I would say of those 25% that are simply not curious, 100% of their "decision" is based on social &/or parental upbringing.
Woman are attracted to other women because the very nature of a woman is to be attractive. Any woman who is repulsed by the idea is simply a product of her surroundings. Given the right time, the right place, and the right woman, any woman be intrigued at the very least.
Its not degrading in anyway and I mean absolutely no offense to any women anywhere. It is simply the nature of a woman.
No offense taken. But, I have to disagree with you. I am not repulsed by the idea. I wouldn't hesitate to get involved with a woman if I found them sexually stimulating. I just don't. I have never been intrigued by the idea of getting involved with a woman. I love men. I love their bodies. Yeah, I can appreciate that a woman is attractive, but no sexual thoughts ever pop into my head. I don't think it has anything to do with social or parental upbringing. I believe it is genetic. I have two brothers that are gay and out of the closet. I would imagine that the genes in my family are overwhelmingly in favor of finding men sexually desirable.
MummaCrash, thanks for the thumbs up and I don't want to hijack this thread but why would gay people be offended at someone stating it is genetic that they are gay? All the ones I know, agree that there is a genetic predisposition involved. They get upset when someone tries to suggest that they actually have a choice as to whether or not to be gay and, if they work at it, they can change. Any person who claims to be gay and "converts" to a straight lifestyle was either bisexual or straight all along. Yes, sometimes through abuse/social situations, someone's sexual identity may be altered, but that is not the overwhelming majority.
By the way, I think both sexes are equally capable of being bi-sexual. There are more women that experiment or are comfortable in their bi-sexuality, than men, because it is acceptable for women to do so in our society. No one finds it an offensive or repulsive thought. I believe it has to do with the fact that men have been the "ruling" sex. I mean that in the fact that men have, throughout the centuries, made the rules in which we live by. At least in Westernized society. For the most part straight men are sexually aroused by women having sex with each other. So, they have not discouraged, and have actually encouraged that behavior. However, suggest men have sex with each other and you will see most straight people cringe. It is still considered a repulsive thought. That comes from societal conditioning. In the Middle East, in Greece, in other nations, for centuries, it had been considered normal behavior for man on man sex. In Westernized cultures, it is not only frowned upon in our society, but we still have cases of men beating and killing another man for it (Matthew Shephard, as just one example). In today's society, unless you have the good fortune of living in a large cosmopolitan area where being gay now is nothing to be ashamed of, men usually stay in the closet. We are actually seeing more younger straight men experimenting with their sexuality, usually when they are in college. But, it is not openly discussed, as it is with women. And, like Mummacrash and others, it is a bi-curious stage. Most of those men will go on to marry a woman and live a straight life, just as women do now. I do think over time, given time, we will find that our society will find bi-sexual behavior to be the norm among both men and women.
It's nice to see someone with such an honest multiformed outlook on things Ruby. Thanks for sharing with us.
My cousin is gay and a family member talks about her and her lover/gays alike, are missing one Chromosone other then straight people.
She gets offended.
I think that you're right in saying we're all quite capable of altering our sexuality.
I know where I stand now but I still except my love for women too.
Ah, I see. Hate to say this, but unless that family member has conclusive studies to back up that statement, he/she should stop saying it. Has your cousin been tested for a missing chromosome? I very much doubt it. What your family member is doing is making a blanket statement to explain away why your cousin is gay. It is to make them and other family members feel better about your cousin's choice in partners. Your cousin gets offended because saying something like that suggests she isn't "normal". Normal being defined as straight. If normal were defined as bi-sexual or gay, I would be offended too if someone were to tell me that because I don't find women sexually stimulating, that I am missing a chromosome. Does that make sense to you?
I think it is a combination of things and isn't the same for everyone. Genetics is a very broad term. It can mean lacking certain chromosomes, or that there is a specific gene that is passed from parent to child that determines their sexual preferences, or it could be that the brain is hardwired differently. It could be one or a combination of those things that pre-determines a person's sexual preference. Then again, social interaction plays a huge role too. As I stated above, socially it is much more acceptable in our society for women to have sex with other women. Sometimes, the social interaction can be a detrimental factor to a persons mental health and create a preference for same sex partners. Some people are abused as children. With some women, if a man abused them, the experience was so violent, without love, and done with such force, that they will automatically turn to a woman for sexual intimacy because it is safe, loving, and non-threatening.
Unless your family member is 100% certain that your cousin was never sexually abused and your cousin has been tested and found to be missing a chromosome, that family member needs to stop talking as if they were an authority on the subject. There is no need to state it. If they were having a discussion about it, as we are, then there can be an open exchange of ideas. But, unless your cousin is a willing participant in this exchange of ideas, it should not be brought up.
P.S. Sorry for hijacking the thread Sophia. Didn't mean to get off topic.
I think there are a lot of guys out there that like to watch two female lovers and there are female lovers out there that like others to watch but I wouldn't like that. It's better with just the two.
keep in mind that bisexuality and homosexuality are two completely different things here. I do, however, find it strange that a homosexual man/woman says that it is genetic but gets offended when the genetic difference is pointed out.
I believe homosexuality can be either genetic or a choice. There are many studies that have shown homosexuality by removing that chromosome (in animals, of course). And its not to say that they are "different" but they simply have one less chromosome. If its genetic, then one would have to assume that there IS a genetic difference.
either way, i still stand by my theory that, whether a woman would ever admit t it, or better yet, even realize it herself, all women are simply wired to be open to bisexuality.
and this argument right here is still my favorite:
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Originally Posted by DrJizzle
In nature, everything has either a positive (+) or a negative (-) energy. Naturally, these things are meant to be drawn to eachother. In such, men are designed to be ATTRACTED (+), while women are designed to be ATTRACTIVE (-).
In chemistry we learn that bonds are formed in one of two ways: electrovalent ( a bond formed between a positive and a negative ions) and covalent (a bond formed between two electrons, which we know electrons are negatively charged). Bonds do not form between two positively charged forces.
Interesting approach. I am not disagreeing about the genetics aspect, just the assumption that it is simply a missing chromosome. That hasn't been proven as a scientific conclusion. Regarding my not admitting to being bi-sexual -- Okay. If you want to believe what you want to believe, that is cool with me. You don't know me so how can you know I am telling truth? You are entitled to your theories. For me, application of a scientific law to human nature doesn't wash. Too many variables to take into consideration to create a blanket statement on a black and white supposition. But, I will not get off topic again and start a different discussion here. I will read your link when I have a few moments. Looks interesting.
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