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    Jul 4, 2008, 12:50 PM
    Orgasm without masturbating
    A few years ago I discovered that when I lie on my back on the floor, hold my legs straight and move them up and down I eventually get an orgasm. Normally I only need to move my legs up and down 20-40 times, sometimes longer but I always get an orgasm from doing it.

    How can this be? And how do I know if it's a clitoral or vaginal orgasm? I've never managed to get an orgasm from masturbating and I haven't had sex yet so I don't know how it's supposed to feel but I'm sure it's an orgasm cause my legs start shaking and it feels really good.
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    Jul 4, 2008, 01:00 PM
    How old are you, Please?
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    Jul 4, 2008, 01:07 PM
    There was a study done that showed that women who masturbate to orgasm fall into two basic catagories:

    First, by directly stimulating the clitoris with their fingers.

    Second, by rhythmically squeezing the muscles surrounding the genitals.

    Years ago when I was sexually active, I used the muscle squeezing techinique and found it quite excellent. :)

    I don't know if there is a difference between vaginal and clitoral orgasms... just a nice orgasm to a mind blowing orgasm, maybe. :D
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    Jul 4, 2008, 01:16 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by afaroo
    How old are you, Please?
    I'm 21.
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    Jul 5, 2008, 12:49 PM
    the very first orgasm I can remember was when I was a young boy, and wasn't from typical masturbation. I climbed a pole.

    yes. Sounds silly. Easy to joke about.

    honest truth is a local park had a multilevel slide that had striped support poles that ran about 20 feet up. You weren't supposed to climb them, but kids did.

    the action of gripping tight, then opening up my legs, thrusting them up to get higher to grip and lift my body up, and then repeating it gave an erection... which id had before but didn't understand or care about, and then a subsequent strong orgasm... which felt like a wonderful, pleasurable wave over me. Its was more focused generally in the region, not on the penis, and just a beautiful wave of delightful pleasure.

    seriously, I must have climbed that thing dozens of times over the years before I ever knew what was happening. =)

    to this day, one of my fav positions involves woman on top for pressure and my moving my bent legs in and out, stimulating the muscles toward the sides of the genital region. I've also found tracing this area with my fingers when giving my partner oral amps her higher.

    as for vaginal versus cl!toral. Don't care. There is still a LOT of debate about the two. Some say there are clearly different types of orgasms, some say that the g spot is just an extended part of the cl!toral complex, which is much, much more than a "button", and some believe the "g spot" is much less common that books will tell you and gives a woman reason to feel sexually broken if she cannot reach orgasm with "g spot" stim.

    personally, I agree with the notion that women simply need to find what works for them personally. I know women who responded strongly to stim at the erectile tissue of the "g spot" and others who didn't at all... and in between.

    you are talking about a different region, but one that is sensitive and in your case, very responsive. I think that's great news for you.

    so... yes its possible. I've had it myself with a little different movement.

    when you do have sex you might find this movement, or something like it, can be used to push you over the top... but save it for when you plateau or level off and need a push.
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    Jul 5, 2008, 02:14 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by kp2171
    the very first orgasm i can remember was when i was a young boy, and wasnt from typical masturbation. i climbed a pole.

    yes. sounds silly. easy to joke about.

    when you do have sex you might find this movement, or something like it, can be used to push you over the top... but save it for when you plateau or level off and need a push.
    Yes. That is easy to joke about :)

    By the way, could you explain that last thing you wrote? I don't really understand.
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    Jul 5, 2008, 04:40 PM
    Not sure if you are wondering how to use it during sex or whether the plateau I mentioned was confusing. Ill assume it was the push over the top comment I made.

    There are a lot of things that can set you up for sex to be all it can be. You've read about foreplay... but unfortunately there can be preconceived notions about what this needs to be... and sometimes its just plain wrong. The fact that people starting sexually often don't even know what they need... its like walking into a foreign grocery store and trying to buy food for a dish you don't know how to make.

    Now... some people have an easy time reaching orgasm, some take time and patience and work, and some struggle mightily.

    The plateau I mentioned deals with the fact that during sex the sensations you want and need aren't always what you partner needs and wants. Or maybe your body is tired. Or your mind is distracted. A lot of things can get in the way of you being able to release... and good sex, in my experience, comes when you can absolutely lose yourself in the moment. But sometimes all the "right" sensations seem to diminish in feeling over time.

    The reality is sometimes it feels great but you need a push, something different, to kick up the sensations a notch. For ex, I love my ears and neck to be bit at lightly. Just love it. Never tried to have a partner do this, but id bet I could reach orgasm with just the woman performing strong necking followed by biting at the ears without any self stim or intercourse. But instead of having my partner do this during foreplay I ask her to hold back. For her, she likes chest play late in intercourse, but doesn't want it early (which is COMPLETELY opposite of my desires)... she's sensitive early and needs to be physically distracted and wait until she's more ready for that stim.

    Put your hand against your face. You feel the pressure when it hits the strongest. Over time you notice your hand less and less. Your body is designed to take stimuli that's new and recognize it, but over time your body adjusts and it "feels it less" later than when you first felt it first. It is a physical trick that helps you mentally. When you step out into a windy day you feel it hard at first, but over time you don't need to be made awars its windy. You know it. So your body decreases the sensitivity to the wind and allows you to do whatever you are doing with less mental distraction.

    Sometimes this happens in sex. I can hold back for my partner, but honestly, if I don't have to mentally prevent hitting orgasm too soon, it would take very little time. The newness of the sensations are just that intense. Over time, its not that it feels bad, but your body can sometimes "get used" to that feeling and need different stimuli to keep you climbing toward orgasm.

    So for me, this means some of the things I like best, I save. Like eating dessert at the end of the meal instead of before the veggies you might not care for.

    So... I was suggesting that you seem sensitive to this motion during sex. Having not had sex, you don't know what things will be more productive toward orgasm, what things will feel good but not get you there, and what things you won't care to feel so much.

    But knowing raising and lowering your legs this way gives you a tool. If you find yourself at a place where things aren't amping more and more, you might be able to use this motion or something like it to reach orgasm. As I mentioned before, there is a position I like that allowed me to use those muscles to squeeze and release my legs against my partner and the orgasms in this position are often among the strongest I experience.

    So learn what you can about your body and then you have to be patient to figure out what you can use when during sex.

    If I haven't addressed what you asked about, please clarify.
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    Jul 7, 2008, 05:27 AM
    I was wondering how to use it during sex, so thanks. I completely understand what you mean now. This really helps!
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    Jul 7, 2008, 05:29 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by kp2171
    so for me, this means some of the things i like best, i save. like eating dessert at the end of the meal instead of before the veggies you might not care for.
    By the way, good comparison. I do exactly the same thing - always save the dessert until the end, so I have something to look forward to :)
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    Jul 8, 2008, 04:14 PM
    KP your story of your first orgasm is fascinating! I really didn't know that a male could orgasm that way, lol.. didn't you always wonder why you had wet pants when you were done?

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