 | | | I'm 27, been with my girlfriend for 2 years, and she's NEVER ORGASMED!?!?!
Asked Nov 27, 2010, 10:15 AM
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43 Answers So, I'll make this as concise and brief as possible, but you must know I'm at my wits end here. I'm thinking of leaving my girlfriend because of this issue and some others in our relationship. How interconnected they are is a difficult thing to decode, but...
My girlfriend and I were friends for several years before we started dating. Our personalities and perceptions of each other were clearly different then. She was 6 years deep in a MOSTLY long-distance relationship. Where I was 4 years deep in a bachelor pleasure fest. She had only had 1 or or 2 partners. I, over 20. Her boyfriend broke up with her, potentially because of the continued long distance and her career ambitions that made them living in the same city hard, but he ended it by saying he no longer loved her. I had learned the error of my wiles and had spent a year in siberia (not literally) maturing, returned to the city to find her single. We immediately hit it off! And, quickly made our intentions known. Courted each other for 2 months before finally having sex for the first time. I was really excited! I respected this woman. She's brilliant. Sharp. Witty. Hilarious. Ambitious. Everything I was looking for in a partner.
It had been 8 months since she had sex so things were slow going... But that was okay. I was really into this girl. 6 months into dating and we exchanged "I LOVE YOU"s. I felt it! And, I still do. MORE THAN EVER! I LOVE THIS GIRL! But, there are serious sexual issues. She had only climaxed once... (forgive the title, for keywords sake)
She doesn't masturbate and is bedeviled by the fact that I do? I find this puritanical, incredibly simple minded and uninformed. We've come to loggerheads over this and I honestly can't believe a modern, intelligent woman hasn't taken ownership of her own sexuality. She is fixated on the fact that I might be thinking about someone other than her during my own private sexual experiences... So, she clearly has control issues, too. I've told her that I'm not going to stop masturbating, that it's a healthy part of my sexual life. I don't over masturbate, maybe every other day, at that.
She won't give me blowjobs. I've received maybe 10 in our 2 years. She hates the smell of ***, and hates it in her mouth. I've never ejaculated in her mouth. This really frustrated me. But, wasn't a deal breaker at all. I voiced that I would like more head on several occasions, in polite non-jokey ways. I told her it was something I enjoyed and would like more of. Still nothing... But, honestly I can live without. It wasn't that big of a deal.
The kicker... The last orgasm I remember her having was over a year ago. I *** every time. For her, I have tried everything. I've read all the other similar posts on this site, and several others, and after talking to my closest friends... Romantic foreplay, sexual foreplay, asking her to be vocal, massaging, varied/attentive/soft/hard oral stimulation, her on top, different positions, encouraging masturbation, both private and together, manual and penal g-spot attention, mentioned toys - out of the question,... I am attentive, but not over bearing, and that's been confirmed by her. I addressed all of these things to her directly, indirectly, in a healthy a way as I knew how. Voiced my concern, saying I needed her help, saying and meaning that it wasn't my pride, it was me wanting to please her, fully, taking our relationship to the next level, fully realizing it. THEN giving her months of room to implement, without me looming over her shoulder (so to speak). I wanted her to own this, so she could grow at her own speed. I knew this all had to be organic, but still the problem persisted AND she's completely NON VERBAL about it. I have to bring it up. She WILL NOT TELL ME WHAT PLEASES HER IN BED. Tight lipped (forgive the pun). She's claimed that I'm too focused on the sex of it all. So, I've spent the last 8 months really focusing on her emotional needs. We got to and exposed some core trust issues on her part and some behavioral issues on mine. We identified them and agreed to work on them. I feel like I'm carrying my weight in that department, but it's becoming hard NOT to resent her. I feel like I've done right by myself on several occasions, bringing it up when I had to, and have been responsive to her needs. I mentioned going to see someone and she scoffed. She is not friendly to therapists given a tenuous past with them. Also, giving her space so she didn't have this hanging over her. But, how can it not?! Orgasms either happen or they don't. Still, we pushed on. She has never been able to explain to me why she can't orgasm. I haven't explicitly asked her about her orgasms before me, maybe I should. I'm lost... Here's my working conclusion. Please tell me what you think.
I love her. VERY MUCH. I think we have very different sexual pasts and needs. I'm a little more tapped into my nervous system than her. I think spending her entire college years in a long distance relationship, with very limited and brief sexual encounters, stunted her sexual growth, but excelerated her emotional intelligence, which sadly is now being used against her. I believe a mutually healthy and enjoyable sex life is one of the cornerstones of a relationship, not THE cornerstone, but one of them. Without it, we can't take the next step, move in together, etc. If she can't orgasm because of emotional issues, I find that unacceptable... I have made myself more than available emotionally, proven myself to be someone worth her trust, worth her feeling comfortable around, I take that very seriously, and if that's still the case then I fear she needs to find someone else who can support her more, that I need to find someone else. If she can't orgasm for biological/physical reasons, then she needs to suck it up and go see a specialist with me or by herself if that makes her more comfortable. She doesn't talk to ANYONE about sex. Not even her best friend. She is completely opperrating in a vacuum, her own thoughts just amplified over time. And, NO, she has not been sexually abused, by her own admission. I really believe she needs to take control of her sexual life, find someone to talk to, if it's a friend, fine, if it's a therapist great. But, she must feel so alone and trapped with this problem, something I'm not able to help her with, and not for trying. If she won't find someone to talk to then I take that as a sign that she's not as serious about this relationship as I am, and I will need to move on.
I might add that we are both very busy career people, working very high-stress jobs that take up a lot of time. That can sometimes make things hard, but it's also something we love about each other. I wouldn't change that at all.
Thoughts? Questions? Concerns? I've put a lot of thought into this, but it's not all here so please ask questions if you're confused or think I'm glossing over something. Thread Summary |
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Nov 29, 2010, 09:27 PM
| | | Oh lol I know I'm a young guy (18), but trust me foreplay is where it's at. It's true, guys get WAYY turned on a lot faster than girls, give her time. If your really feeling up to it give her a masage, it drives them madd. Also trust me, don't try foolin around with her even a couple days after a fight or something, girls let stuff stick to there minds, even though you don't really know it she might still be in that fight with you in her mind 3 days later. So make sure you have a clean slate be4 you make a move lol. A tip on the masage though (If she's into that kind of stuff) the back of a girls legs are the most senseitive part of a woman's body, even if they don't know it. Have her lay down and masage the hell outa that, lol I know it sounds weird but just get into it, let her guide you. Really pay attention to her mood. Sorry if this really wasn't well thought out, I wrote this in like 4 minutes.. | | |  | Networking & Computers Expert | |
Nov 29, 2010, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Guy14114 oh lol I know I'm a young guy (18), but trust me foreplay is where it's at. It's true, guys get WAYY turned on a lot faster than girls, give her time. If your really feeling up to it give her a masage, it drives them madd. Also trust me, don't try foolin around with her even a couple days after a fight or something, girls let stuff stick to there minds, even though you don't really know it she might still be in that fight with you in her mind 3 days later. So make sure you have a clean slate be4 you make a move lol. A tip on the masage though (If she's into that kind of stuff) the back of a girls legs are the most senseitive part of a woman's body, even if they don't know it. Have her lay down and masage the hell outa that, lol I know it sounds weird but just get into it, let her guide you. Really pay attention to her mood. Sorry if this really wasn't well thought out, I wrote this in like 4 minutes.. | Re-read the OP's thread. He's done this already. Also, less chat talk. Spell things out and capitalize when necessary. It makes it easy to understand what you're saying!
Just because you're younger doesn't mean you're any less entitled to an opinion, based on experience or opinion. | | |  | Senior Member | |
Nov 30, 2010, 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Guy14114 A tip on the masage though (If she's into that kind of stuff) the back of a girls legs are the most senseitive part of a woman's body, even if they don't know it. Have her lay down and masage the hell outa that, lol I know it sounds weird but just get into it. | Just a tip in return, women are all individuals and what is perfect for one may leave another cold. I'm long enough in the tooth to know my own hotspots and that's not top of the list for me. You're doing fine for someone who is 18 but do keep your mind open with every lady you meet in the future. | | |  | Ultra Member | |
Nov 30, 2010, 07:50 PM
| | | Cometothis, have you tried humming while giving her oral? | | |  | Uber Member | |
Nov 30, 2010, 09:33 PM
| | | I think there's been great advice given and I find the OP'er here to be incredibly open to ideas and suggestions... Clearly, even if he is putting pressure on her to "perform" he is also attentive and giving.
If she wrote in and said her man gets his every time but she never does, I'm afraid id quickly label him as an uncaring lover who needs the boot. Clearly, he posted here out of need for information and a desire to help his lover find a better place.
You aren't wrong. She isn't wrong. Maybe you are wrong together?
Ive had wonderful sex during which I didn't have an orgasm. I've had mediocre sex (mentally) that ended with a happy ending. I get your point. I've been where you are, sort of. One lover only came about half the time with oral and sometimes with penetration and even then more with manual stim. It happens.
The previous lover came all the time. All the time. Every time. It was a blast. And she wouldn't demand anything less. Of course this felt great and of course id hoped the same for every lover after her.
So... I'm not going to say you are wrong. Its natural to want to please your lover if you care about your lover.
But what will be wrong will be to stay and be upset. At some point, you accept things as they are to some degree... And that might mean you don't get the ego boost that comes with a partner satiated.
So... Your concern isn't unwarranted. Her physical response isn't "wrong" and her choice to do to her body what she wants... Its her choice. Yes... We plead over and over for young women to take charge of their sexuality... But her threshold of "good" might not be mine. Or yours.
Sorry you are in this place. Glad you posted.
Most relationships are built upon five major areas of commitment. Intimate touch, affirming words, quality time together, acts of service (doing tasks or other good work to help the other person), and gifts.
The most solid relationships have balance among there areas, even if one or two dominate.
The idea is that a table with five supporting legs is more stable than one with two or three... Especially when life gets in the way.
So... She doesn't orgasm easily. K. You know this. If you choose to stay, you are ok with this. | | |  | Marriage Expert | |
Dec 1, 2010, 06:45 AM
| | | I have been doing some more thinking about the communication issue.
I am wondering if she is closing down because she feels more like she is being given a lecture on what she should be doing instead of being part of a discussion about sexuality where her feelings are being heard and taken into account.
I think you mean well and do care about her needs. I am concerned that you are so concerned with what you see as a problem (her lack of orgasms) you are making it to where she doesn't feel comfortable discussing how she feels. IF and when she does tell you anything about what she likes/needs, how do you respond? Do you accept what she has to say and work WITH her or do you immediately go overboard trying to 'fix' the problem (trying to find a 'fix' if nothing else) even if she wants to go at a slower pace?
I am getting an impression from reading your posts that you are very serious about solving what you see as the problem. I am wondering if you have tried to approach communications in a different way. Maybe not be so serious about it. Perhaps trying a game for lovers. If she has problems verbalizing her needs, maybe ask if she would prefer to write them down. | | |  | Networking & Computers Expert | |
Dec 1, 2010, 08:52 AM
| | | I am not saying that you are not caring or attentative, because quite frankly you are and others should learn from this wonderful trait you've displayed. Pushy? Maybe, but then who doesn't want their lover to be happy.
What I am saying is that getting mad because when you push she denies & contemplating leaving her over this is over-reaction on your part. In my opinion she does not see it as important as you do.
There are other things to a relationship then just great sex. Granted some believe a healthy sex life is a cornerstone of a relationship (me being one of them) who said not having an orgasm makes it unhealthy. She could still enjoy it just as much as you do.
Making her reach the point of orgasm should be a bonus in your relationship not a requirement! | | |  | Welbeing Expert | |
Dec 1, 2010, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ITstudent2006 There are other things to a relationship then just great sex. | True, but it does help out. It's also something that I couldn't live without.
Perhaps he feels the same way.
Just saying... | | |  | Networking & Computers Expert | |
Dec 1, 2010, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Enigma1999 True, but it does help out. It's also something that I couldn't live without.
Perhaps he feels the same way.
Just saying... | I think you should read the sentence following the one you quoted me on. | | |  | Welbeing Expert | |
Dec 1, 2010, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ITstudent2006 I think you should read the sentence following the one you quoted me on.  | I did my friend.
I was just making a blanket statement to what you had already said. | | | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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