Circumcision has been practiced for a very long time. It has been said to meet certain religious requirements and to prevent disease. It is an accepted thing. It is preferred by mothers that I have met because it makes it easier to keep the baby's penis clean.

Personally, as a woman, I find that uncircumcised penises feel better during sex. I read that the foreskin is there not only to protect the penis, but is the most sensitive skin on it.

I know there are ongoing studies to ascertain if the foreskin harbors germs and carcinogens, and disease control is a vital concern to many. Does that make it OK to remove an extremely sensitive (in more than one way) body part without the boy's permission?

I have not met any men who were circumcised as adults. So, is there a difference in before and after sensitivity for men? I heard that adult circumcision is extremely painful. Doing it to a baby wouldn't be all that different would it? I would not have someone else's ears pierced without their mature permission and total willingness. Is this different?

kp2171

ive known two good female friends who thought their male partners who were uncircumcised had a better sexual response than previous males who were circumcised, meaning they had better sex with these men and thought the sensitivity elongated, not shortened, sex. i cant state if thats true, but i have no reason do doubt their opinions.

im not saying all are created equal... sex is complicated... but most men can train themselves to hold back if they give a damn... why is this an issue with you concerning circumcised men? if you corrolate to women, you would then expect women without a clitoral hood to be able to hold back sexually... ok... so by your reasoning we should just cut off the cl!toral hood?

a womans nipples might drive her over the edge when stimulated at the right time. why expect different from the uncircumcised male? if you have a tool, you need to learn to use it well.

simoneaugie

KP,
I was wondering if there was a man who was circumcized as an adult who could comment on a change in sensitivity. I am against cutting or piercing body parts without permission.

I did not bring up the issue of lasting longer. I said that uncircumcized feels better to me. You said "if you have tool, you need to learn to use it well." Right on.

Xrayman

perhaps this issue of "lasting longer" when circumcised is really a (albeit BAD indictment on circumcision)-it means that sensitivity has beens reduced? doesn't it?

I'm sorry I still don't get the ridiculous reasons given for mutilating a child, male or female.

let's get out of the dark ages and leave our bodies as "god" or the universe, or nature or whoever/whatever designed it to be so.

oneguyinohio

My contribution is that the idea of circumcission was pushed by the medical people of years ago as part of either their religious beliefs or so they could have one more procedure to bill for.

I'm not saying that was the original source of the procedure... only that there was a big push for the public to accept it...

Below is a link to a lot of interesting reading for those who want to know more...

History of male circumcision - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh, and the way a 9 year old learns to clean themselves, is the same way they learn to wipe their rears... they get taught until they are able to do it themselves.

vtram7

WOW! Many different opinions on this one. As a nurse I have seen many circumcisions performed, and to be honest with you, you put a little suger water on their pacifier and the doctor performs the procedure, honestly 90% that I have seen the babies don't cry, the others wimper for a few seconds and it is done.
I have also taken care of many boys without circumcised penises, and due to the constant infections they endure, many of the mothers end up getting their son's circumcised to relieve them from all of the infections and complications.
Then there are the older geriatric gentleman that I have taken care of in the hospital, and it is about the same thing with them as it is the younger boys that are not circ, they can't clean as well as they need to because of health reasons and their modesty of having someone else doing it. There is a lot of smegma that doesn't get cleaned off and there are more UTI's infections etc..
I believe it is everyones own choice to believe whatever they believe, but coming from a medical standpoint I believe it beneficial.

smoothy

Because women are more complicated than guys....99.99% of women aren't as easy to stimulate and get off as a guy. Whereas women can actually climax from stimulation other than clitoral (and I've gotten women off without even touching their pubic area), except for direct prostate massage guys will not ejaculate or climax with other than direct penile stimulation. The more that gets stimulated the faster the guy finishes. And a more sensitive penile tip will NOT prolong it for a guy. For a guy to learn control and focus to not pop fairly quick the LEAST stimulation to that is what is the KEY.

An overly sensitive one eye wonder snake makes lasting more than 5 minutes far more difficult.

Like I said...you can't equate female stimulation with male stimulation....what makes a guy tick is light years from what makes a woman tick.

kp2171

theres at least one organization that has a bunch of pi$$ed off men who were circumcised later in life for religious reasons... they claim it dramatically changed their sexual experience, but its hard to know the truth.

first, its an internet site. second, its an emotional issue and its hard to know what is fact or not, since so much of sexual pleasure is also tied to mental state. third, theres no real med study ive seen where men are tested for sensation, circ, then tested again, yknow?... i dont think from that alone you can make any real judgement


im not going to downplay the issue of uti's... the AMA still doesnt see the procedure as medically beneficial to prevent this in children... or at least thats the "official" line... their wording is such that you can tell they are trying not to damn the procedure... id really like to see numbers on how many parents later circ their sons due to uti's...

i think your point about geriatric care is a great one that has not yet been brought up in this thread, or even others ive seen. there are many issues tied to proper geriatric care, and while im not sure this is reason enough to cut, i think its certainly a great point concerning elder care.

thanks for the points

bushg

My question is why would a doc not perform this on a premie child or a child that has an irregular heart beat? Why do the babies sometimes go all day without eating after they have it done, if it is so painless? Why do they just not jerk up a grown mans penis and cut it if the procedure is so pain free? I am sorry but I think babies feel every ounce of pain,that this horrible procedure inflicts.
Have I seen thousands done? No but my 2 sons had it done and believe me it wasn't pain free. Yes, I regret that I was a young ,stupid, uninformed mom and went with the flow. I have also spent many hours at a University hospital& childrens hospital and can't remember a child that had it done and cooed afterwards...I believe their little chest would heave up and down from the gut wrenching sobs of having it done. I just hope that everyone really educates themselves on this matter before they decide it is right for their child.

vtram7

I never said that this procedure was not painful, my only statement was that I have seen quite a few done and to my surprise, they did not scream and wail as one would expect.. yes they wimpered or had a few tears some of them, but I was surprised at how little they cried because that is not what I expected. I never said anything about it being painfree. Thanks.


I have seen it a handful of times probably. Having it done on toddler boys is devastating!

As far as the geriatric point I made, I just made it as something to think about, because later in life it is very difficult, and when you have someone with circulation problems etc... and you add infection on top of that, it can become a very bad situation.

My comments are just facts or stories I have experienced, It is no business of mine whether or not you circ your son. Just wanted to share.

Nathan1975

I was circumcised when I was 21 after a yeast infection under my foreskin. I would certainly have preferred it to be done when I was a baby.
As far as the sensitivity is concerned, I think the head is a bit less sensitive, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Before circumcision, if anything dry rubbed the head (a finger or even a dry lip), it would hurt. It takes a little more stimulation now, but the amount of pleasure from that stimulation is the same. Actually a bit better, because the foreskin is never in the way. It used to be that during sex, the foreskin covered the head until the end of the forward thrust, whereas now the head gets stimulated constantly. I remember having sex for the first time after being circumcised and enjoying all the tugging along the shaft, which I didn't feel before. Oral sex is better too, because the woman doesn't have to focus on keeping the foreskin pulled back and can focus on other things. On the minus side, masturbation was easier with a foreskin.
So I wouldn't worry about circumcision ruining a boy's future sex life. I would be in favor of having any sons circumcised as infants because of the foreskin complications that circumcised boys and men just don't have to worry about.