More confused? I reckon so. How's about totally lost. You obviously know this stuff very well but you need to use baby talk to get me caught up with you. To answer one of your questions - I have DSL through Centurytel. Now -- when the poker site tells me that I already have an id using "this IP" -- what are they referring to? - can they see my "private IP (which as you said is 168.something or other)" or are they referring to the IP address provided by Centurytel? Thanks again for all yawlls help.